AGU Fall Meeting. Part III: An Open Letter From Greg Craven

Received via email from Greg Craven, posted in entirety:

Mea Mega Culpa: an Open Letter from Greg Craven re: Dec. 15th speech at AGU.

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Scientists in fiction

Judith Curry

I recently read Ian McEwan’s book Solar, which motivated me to ponder putting together a thread on scientists in fiction.   The classics in this genre, e.g. Frankenstein, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Dr. Strangelove, represent scientists as evil geniuses unrestrained by ethics.  Contemporary books in the genre provide more complex images of scientists.

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AGU Fall Meeting: Part II

by Judith Curry

I’ve spent the last several days at the AGU meeting in San Francisco.  With 19,200 participants, there is an overwhelming amount things going on all that the same time.   Here are some highlights of the meeting (some of which I witnessed first hand, others are based on second hand reports).  And also some comments on some of the controversies that are being discussed in the blogosphere.

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Michaels’ controversial testimony: Part III

by Judith Curry

Pat Michaels’ frequent collaborator, Chip Knappenberger, has written an extended post on MasterResource that is a follow up to Michaels’ testimony and Climate Etc. previous two threads.  Chip has given me permission to repost in entirety at Climate Etc., and Chip will be available for discussion.

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Lies, damned lies, and science(?)

by Judith Curry

A fascinating article appeared in the November issue of the Atlantic, entitled “Lies, Damned Lies, and Medical Science.”  The article is an absolute must read, about the prevalance of (unconscious) bias in medical science.

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CO2 no-feedback sensitivity: Part II

by Judith Curry

So how to define this problem to make sense?  Or can we?  To focus the discussion started on the previous thread, I am highlighting some of the defining or thought provoking statement from the the previous thread:

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AGU Fall Meeting

by Judith Curry

The American Geophysical Union (AGU) is holding is annual Fall meeting this week (13-17 Dec) in San Francisco.  I’m posting on this to give the broader Climate Etc. a sense of the main professional society for climate scientists.

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CO2 no-feedback sensitivity

by Judith Curry

The IPCC defines climate sensitivity as “a metric used to characterise the response of the global climate system to a given forcing. It is broadly defined as the equilibrium global mean surface temperature change following a doubling of atmospheric CO2concentration.”

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Testimony followup: Part II

RESPONSE TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT OF THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Pursuant to Judith Curry’s Testimony for the

Hearing on “Rational Discussion of Climate Change: the Science, the Evidence, the Response”

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Open thread: 12/08/10

Unusual for me to post an open thread mid week, but this has unexpectedly turned into a very busy week for me.  Responding to the follow up questions is turning into as much work as the original testimony (even with all that help from my friends :) )

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Education versus indoctrination: Part III

Michael Larkin has done an excellent job of synthesis and analysis of the some of the more cogent points made on the previous threads.   The text of Michael’s comments are provided below:

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Education versus indoctrination: Part II

by Judith Curry

The previous thread has gotten long, and has wandered off topic.  Lets focus the discussion on this thread on some of the interesting ideas that are being discussed on the previous thread, including the following:

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Confidence in radiative transfer models

by Judith Curry

The calculation of atmospheric radiative fluxes is central to any argument related to the atmospheric greenhouse/Tyndall gas effect.  Atmospheric radiative transfer models rank among the most robust components of climate model, in terms of having a rigorous theoretical foundation and extensive experimental validation both in the laboratory and from field measurements.   However, I have not found much in the way of actually explaining how atmospheric radiative transfer models work and why we should have confidence in them (at the level of technical blogospheric discourse).  In this post, I lay out some of the topics that I think need to be addressed  in such an explanation regarding infrared radiative transfer.  Given my limited time this week, I mainly frame the problem here and provide some information to start a dialogue on this topic, I hope that other experts participating can fill in (and I will update the main post).

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Education versus indoctrination

by Judith Curry

The Wikipedia defines indoctrination as:

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Testimony follow up

by Judith Curry

Pursuant to my recent congressional testimony, I have received  some follow up questions that were submitted by Members of the Committee.

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Best of the greenhouse

by Judith Curry

On the previous two threads, we had a lively, rollicking, illuminating and often frustrating discussion on the physics of the greenhouse effect.  On this thread, I try to synthesize the main issues and arguments that were made and pull some of what I regard to be the highlights from the comments.

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Climate model verification and validation

by Judith Curry

On the thread building confidence in climate models , a small amount of text was devoted to verification and validation (V&V).  In raising the level of the game, I included the following bullet:

• Fully documented verification and validation of climate models

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Skeptical discussion

This is a wide open thread, discuss whatever you like here.  I am starting this new thread in an effort to keep the threads on greenhouse effect and skeptics make your best case on topic.   Please keep your comments that are not directly relevant to these two topics off those threads, and post them over here.  I will start deleting extraneous comments from the other two threads.  Thanks for your cooperation in this.

p.s.  I am really pleased to see the discussion interest transitioning from climategate to the actual science :)

Physics of the atmospheric greenhouse(?) effect

by Judith Curry

The skeptics thread has shown that it is plausible to be skeptical of a number of issues regarding the findings of  IPCC WG1.  However, whether atmospheric gases such as CO2 (and H20, CH4, and others) warm the planet is not an issue where skepticism is plausible.

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Waving the Italian flag. Part I: uncertainty and pedigree

by Judith Curry

The Italian flag (IF) is a representation of three-valued logic in which evidence for a proposition is represented as green, evidence against is represented as red, and residual uncertainty is represented as white.  The white area reflects uncommitted belief, which can be associated with uncertainty in evidence or unknowns.

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Raising the level of the game: Part II

by Judith Curry

There has been considerable interesting discussion on the previous thread.  I plan to follow up with thread on verification and validation of climate models, and am pondering how to deal with explaining the greenhouse effect.  On this thread, I would like to see discussion on this thread focus on the following:

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Skeptics: make your best case

This thread provides an opportunity to put forth skeptical arguments related to the topics broadly covered by the IPCC WG I Report The Physical Science Basis. This thread is designed for academic and other professional researchers as well as citizen scientists.

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Raising the level of the game

by Judith Curry

Documenting, understanding and predicting climate variability and change is an issue of substantial scientific and socioeconomic importance.  The IPCC put forth a strategy for assessing the science that is based upon reducing uncertainty and building a consensus.  This consensus was used to convince the public and policy makers of the IPCC’s scientific findings, which were linked with the UNFCCC treaties and policies to urge action on carbon stabilization.  The partial success of this strategy was reflected by the award of the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize to the IPCC.

Failures of this strategy in terms of the actual science are to overly focus the science on one aspect of the climate problem, marginalize dissenting voices, polarize the scientific community, and alienate a large segment of the educated public who have the desire, interest, logic, and often the mathematical and physical science skills to understand and even contribute to the science.

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The Principles of Reasoning. Part II: Solving the Problem of Induction

by Terry Oldberg

This essay continues the argument which I initiated in Part I. To summarize, in Part I, I described a kind of model that was a procedure for making inferences. One kind of inference was a prediction from a known state of nature called a “condition” to an uncertain state of nature called an “outcome.” Conditions and outcomes were both examples of abstracted states. I pointed out that sets of conditions of infinite number could be defined on the Cartesian product space of a model’s independent variables and that each of these sets defined a different model. Thus, models of infinite number were candidates for being built.

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Engaging the public on the climate change issue

by Judith Curry

The anniversary of Climategate has engendered much reflection on the climate change issue, specifically with regard to communicating and engaging with the public.

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