Monthly Archives: November 2010

Physics of the atmospheric greenhouse(?) effect

by Judith Curry

The skeptics thread has shown that it is plausible to be skeptical of a number of issues regarding the findings of  IPCC WG1.  However, whether atmospheric gases such as CO2 (and H20, CH4, and others) warm the planet is not an issue where skepticism is plausible.

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Waving the Italian flag. Part I: uncertainty and pedigree

by Judith Curry

The Italian flag (IF) is a representation of three-valued logic in which evidence for a proposition is represented as green, evidence against is represented as red, and residual uncertainty is represented as white.  The white area reflects uncommitted belief, which can be associated with uncertainty in evidence or unknowns.

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Raising the level of the game: Part II

by Judith Curry

There has been considerable interesting discussion on the previous thread.  I plan to follow up with thread on verification and validation of climate models, and am pondering how to deal with explaining the greenhouse effect.  On this thread, I would like to see discussion on this thread focus on the following:

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Skeptics: make your best case

This thread provides an opportunity to put forth skeptical arguments related to the topics broadly covered by the IPCC WG I Report The Physical Science Basis. This thread is designed for academic and other professional researchers as well as citizen scientists.

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Raising the level of the game

by Judith Curry

Documenting, understanding and predicting climate variability and change is an issue of substantial scientific and socioeconomic importance.  The IPCC put forth a strategy for assessing the science that is based upon reducing uncertainty and building a consensus.  This consensus was used to convince the public and policy makers of the IPCC’s scientific findings, which were linked with the UNFCCC treaties and policies to urge action on carbon stabilization.  The partial success of this strategy was reflected by the award of the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize to the IPCC.

Failures of this strategy in terms of the actual science are to overly focus the science on one aspect of the climate problem, marginalize dissenting voices, polarize the scientific community, and alienate a large segment of the educated public who have the desire, interest, logic, and often the mathematical and physical science skills to understand and even contribute to the science.

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The Principles of Reasoning. Part II: Solving the Problem of Induction

by Terry Oldberg

This essay continues the argument which I initiated in Part I. To summarize, in Part I, I described a kind of model that was a procedure for making inferences. One kind of inference was a prediction from a known state of nature called a “condition” to an uncertain state of nature called an “outcome.” Conditions and outcomes were both examples of abstracted states. I pointed out that sets of conditions of infinite number could be defined on the Cartesian product space of a model’s independent variables and that each of these sets defined a different model. Thus, models of infinite number were candidates for being built.

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Engaging the public on the climate change issue

by Judith Curry

The anniversary of Climategate has engendered much reflection on the climate change issue, specifically with regard to communicating and engaging with the public.

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What have we learned from Climategate? Part II

by Judith Curry

The previous thread is getting unwieldly, there seems to still be much interest in discussing this, and there are some new interesting articles that I’ve spotted:

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Principles of Reasoning. Part I: Abstraction

By Terry Oldberg

Introduction

In building climate models, climatologists generalize. Can the means by which they generalize be improved?

Yes they can. The means can be improved by replacement of intuitive rules of thumb called “heuristics” by the principles of reasoning.

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What have we learned from Climategate?

by Judith Curry

On this one year anniversary of the unauthorized release of the emails from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, there have been a number of articles reflecting on what the impact of this has been on both science and policy, and what we might have learned.

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Michael’s controversial testimony: Part II

by Judith Curry

Here is further explanation why I think Michael’s testimony is significant, and why I think the issue of the attribution since 1950 will be the battleground in U.S. CO2 policy.  Michaell’s stated purpose for conducting this analysis was:

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Michael’s controversial testimony

by Judith Curry

Pat Michael’s testimony has been generating significant controversy, both in the hearing and in the blogosphere.

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Uncertainty gets a seat at the “big table.” Part V

At the end of the Hearing Charter, under The Response section, is the following statement:

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Uncertainty gets a seat at the “big table:” Part IV

STATEMENT TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT OF THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Hearing on “Rational Discussion of Climate Change: the Science, the Evidence, the Response”

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Open thread: 11/15/10

Several people have asked  for a new open thread.  I hope that people can bring me up to date with what is going on elsewhere in the blogosphere, since I haven’t had time to check.   I will have time starting next Friday to engage more in the comments and get back to writing some technical threads.

Uncertainty gets a seat at the big table: Part III

by Judith Curry

Ok, here it is, the final program:

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What we know with confidence

by Judith Curry

Of the four IPCC assessment reports, I  think the first assessment report (FAR) presents the case with the greatest clarity.

Since the FAR was published 20 years ago, it is worth taking a look to see how their conclusions and levels of confidence and uncertainty have stood up to the test of time.

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Uncertainty gets a seat at the “big table.” Part II

by Judith Curry

Some breaking news.  I received an email from the House of Representatives staffer who invited me to participate:

Just an FYI – Republicans will be inviting a witness for each panel.  This is a change from the usual practice of one witness per hearing, regardless of the number of panels.

Now this makes it much more interesting.  I have no idea who else has been asked.  Place your bets, make your recommendations!

The denizens of Climate Etc.

Climate Etc. has now attracted a critical (and growing) mass of “regulars.” I would like to try what Jeff Id did over at the Air Vent on his Reader Background thread. I will eventually provide a button for this thread on the top bar (next to blog rules), so it is easy to refer to (and add to).

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Uncertainty gets a seat at the “big table”

by Judith Curry

On Nov 17, the U.S. House of Representative’s Committee on Science and Technology Subcommittee on Energy and Environment is holding a hearing on “Rational Discussion of Climate Change: the Science, the Evidence, the Response.”

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The Scientific Method

by Mike Zajko

This post addresses an issue that has been coming up recurrently since the start of this blog. I hope it might be a way to step back and reflect on the nature of science in general, as well as a place where we can think about the methods applied in climate science more specifically. I’ve broken the following down into sections that can be read together or individually. I’m hoping for come good discussion of these and additional approaches to the scientific method.

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Why engage with skeptics?

by Judith Curry

Many climate scientists have stopped engaging with skeptics, because they think it is either pointless or they don’t want to lend legitimacy to the skepticism. Those who think it is pointless seem mostly interested in protecting their time.  Those who view this as lending legitimacy to skeptics would seem to be acting in accord with IPCC/UNFCCC ideology.

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No ideologues: Part III

by Judith Curry

Some very constructive dialogue on the previous two threads.  The use of the word “heretic” in the Scientific American article just begged for the word “dogma” to be used.  Given its range of connotations, it seems that dogma or even dogmatism doesn’t really convey what I am intending to for many people.

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No dogma(tism): Part II

by Judith Curry

The dogma post seems to have a struck a nerve, but both sides seem be talking past each other.  One side sees the dogma as self-evident, the other side wants evidence.

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Ending the war with skeptics

by Judith Curry

As we approach the anniversary of Climategate, I am getting a lot of queries from reporters, which invariably includes the following question:

Is there any hope for ending the war between climate scientists that support the IPCC and skeptics?

My answer is “yes.”

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