by Judith Curry
The continuing drama of the U.S. Presidential election.
JC’s pick for best article of the week has two winners:
- Rat Pack versus the hippie: Trump and Clinton come from opposite ends of the same decade [link]
- Camille Paglia: PC feminists misfire again, as fearful elite can’t touch Donald Trump [link]
Donald Trump Plans to Renegotiate Paris Climate Deal, Saying Agreement Bad for the United States [link]
RealClearPolitics: Would Trump undo Obama’s environmental legacy? [link]
Trump’s college reform ideas are surprisingly good [link]
Charles Murray in the National Review: Why ‘Hilary is worse’ doesn’t cut it [link]
A Trump presidency means a safer Israel [link]
Iran’s Mullahs Love Bernie Sanders [link]
Politico: Donald Trump’s links to organized crime [link]
Breaking news: State Department audit faults Clinton in emails [link]
Politico: The end of a partisan alignment, and the beginning of a policy one [link]
Walter Russell Mead: The meaning of Trump [link]
Politico: Why Bernie’s bros might go for Trump [link]
538: Pay Attention To Libertarian Gary Johnson; He’s Pulling 10 Percent vs. Trump And Clinton [link]
National Review: ‘Never Gary Johnson’: He’s not conservative, and not even all that Libertarian [link]
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It’s gonna be president Trump. People are sick and tired of Hillary and all she stands for.
I’ may express preferences, but no predictions from me. From various blog posts these predictions appear to be an appeal to superstition- sympathetic magic. People seem to believe that making a prediction with a deep emotional input will somehow influence the future.
http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2007/07/the-secret.html
That is very true Alan, but it makes me feel a bit better because basically that’s all there is in this political world. My vote is worthless as has been shown most recently in Austria, as will be shown on June 23rd and again in November. So I shout out what I hope for and have a brief smile then plod onwards the ever loyal wage slave.
We are all just bit players in Les Miserables of life so there isn’t much left but to to shout “yay” for our side now and again, get in a few beers with the boys on a Friday night and watch the game. It’s no big deal.
The DoS IG report is pretty damning. The private server clearly violated written policy, two staffers who voiced concerns were told to shut up and one was also told it had been vetted by legal when it had not been, the Colin Powell did it too excuse fails because in Colin Powells time the explicit DoS policies did not yet exist, the belated email production was significantly incomplete…
She has serious problems, so the field is pretty even. How are bookmakers betting?
I don’t agree with Bernie on much, but I come pretty close on the email issue. Big yawn.
Problem is, I’m betting, there are other pols who have private email servers with classified info on them.
These people don’t want their emails subject to open records requests.
That’s behind the entire thing. I speak as a former elected official in the state of Texas which has among the strictest open records laws in the country. All email dealing with gov’t business is supposed to go through a gov’t server, is archived forever, and is subject to open records requests from the press or individuals.
The result is that any dialog you have with anyone on any subject even remotely to do with your office, if you don’t want it to be public information, you have the conversation over the telephone. Some say this makes it very difficult to get their job done because the phone is inefficient compared to email in that both parties have to schedule times when they can talk and talk freely without being overheard. They have to be too careful about every turn of phrase lest it be spun, taken out of context, or otherwise misinterpreted.
Unfortunately for the office holder the law is law and you deal with open record laws as best you can without committing fel0nies like setting up your own server so you can withhold or delete what you don’t want made public. This is a very serious crime that Clinton committed. The security concerns are a sideshow compared to the real motivation behind it – avoiding federal open record requests.
Those emails can be deadly when one makes a practice of saying one thing and doing the opposite in smoke-filled rooms:
Hillary Clinton’s Energy Initiative Pressed Countries to Embrace Fracking, New Emails Reveal
https://theintercept.com/2016/05/23/hillary-clinton-fracking/
It sounds like you have no problem with lying politicians skirting the FOIA laws.
Do just enough to provide plausible deniability.
Are you “former” because you got caught?
No. I actually tried to dissolve the local gov’t altogether since it wasn’t providing any services. I was able to fire enough people at city hall to get property taxes lowered by 25% in the budget meeting. Raising the tax rate enough to hire them back requires a rollback election. The city is running just fine with the reduced staff. A concerted campaign by big-government-loving wealthy people who didn’t care about property tax rate and wanted the micro-management resulted in me losing the next election by 20 votes. A rollback election to raise the property tax rate will never succeed. The m0r0ns left behind haven’t even realized yet they would need a rollback election. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. The small gov’t majority became a small gov’t minority with me leaving office
To be honest, I don’t think the email server issue is particularly damaging. Possibly the story would have better sails if the Republicans hadn’t already ground this story into dust,then ground that dust into finer dust. A classic example of over-stating the problems at the start…. they’ve essentially completely innoculated Hillary on this issue already.
The policy issues are completely irrelevant—HIlary was SOS so all policy comes from her and she would have had complete authority to override any departmental policies as they applied to her conduct in her job, as long as her conduct is legal of course. We would not want to turn our government into one where ultimate authority is derived from unelected government officials, so this is how the system should operate.
The real issue has to do with FOIA compliance. That is, there are legal issues that reside outside of the scope of DOS policies. The purpose of the policies is to ensure compliance, but you need not follow DOS policies in order to remain in compliance.
In fact, it’s possible to be non-compliant with the FOIA while following DOS policies, if those policies are improperly framed. In that case, you are obligated to follow the law, not policies written and approved by unelected bureaucrats. Anyway the point here is to not focus on compliance with DOS policies that Hillary already had the authority to overrule, but to focus on federal statutes that she was obligated to comply with:
If you read the report,/a> it seems to me the big issue is preservation of emails, and it’s one not limited to Hillary Clinton, but has been a pervasive issue within the DOS over the last decade.
Hillary claims that emails that were sent to or from another State Department account were automatically backed up. She’s technically right on this, but the report faults her as not being in compliance regardless of this. And I think they are right.
As best I understand this from a non-expert position, I believe the issue is that you need to preserve the records in that they can be retrieved without a heroic effort (as was required here). Had Hillary turned over all of her emails (including the ones she thought were private) for review by her department when she left, it would have been routine to archive these documents so they could be easily accessed at need.
Why I think this issue is a yawner is partly because the Republicans have long ago sucked any adrenaline out of this issue, and because Hillary’s behavior was consistent with that of other SOSs.
So to me the interesting point is there is a cultural issue within the DOS that needs to be addressed, and not particularly the already overplayed card of “Hillary’s emails.”
It would be a problem for most people. If it isn’t a problem for her that indicates there is a bigger problem.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2477762/Support-rallies-soldier-faces-disciplinary-hearing-sending-classified-information-personal-email-saved-lives.html
Steven—as any of us who deal with sensitive material know, the handling of classified material a completely different issue.
If Hillary took secure information from the secure servers and inappropriately retransmitted it on a non-secure server, that would in principle be a crime. If it were a crime, it would be a crime regardless of whether the email was sent via Hillary’s private email server, or from a DOS non-secure secure.
So this issue has little to do with private servers, it has to do with the handling of classified and sensitive information. If the FBI determines she broke the law in mishandling classified information, she should go to jail. And the severity of the crime is virtually unaffected by whether a private server was used or whether a non-secure DOS server was use
The issues are more complicated for the SOS, because the SOS and other senior DOS officials routinely receives information from foreign governments that we concurrently view as classified in this country. In general people in foreign governments cannot send email over secure lines (access is generally restricted to approved US government employees and private contractors).
There’s another complication, because the SOS is the originating authority for the classification of all sensitive material within the DOS. There are federal laws that mandate what the SOS can or can’t do (way above my pay grad), but there is certainly discretion given to the SOS in judging whether a document is properly classified or not, before deciding to transmit it over non-secure channels.
So you’d have to look at a case by case basis to see whether there were examples where the SOS did not have discretion to downgrade the secrecy level of a document before transmitting it.
It should be obvious discretion that is afforded to the SOS is not typically afforded to Marine officers. The law is applied differently in the two cases, because different laws apply.
Yes, I agree that potential crimes have to do with insecure vs secure and she could send all the unclassified information she wanted over insecure lines regardless of the server. I doubt that she spent years as secretary of state and managed to never send information that were classified via her only email method which was insecure, but perhaps she just didn’t have anything to do with anything important? As far as the laws being applied differently, that would be a problem. As far as declassification of classified materials, I suspect there is a formal methodology towards that end but perhaps a SoS can just wave her hands and say anything I sent I declassified first. I just doubt it.
Oh, gee…
The fact that she doesn’t comply with the law, isn’t transparent, and isn’t honest isn’t a problem in a presidential candidate.
Nothing to see here, move along.
Carrick,
You obviously have a dog in this fight, but CBS Evening News undoubtedly believes it is an important issue, and its reporting rebuts some of the empirical claims you make:
Scathing report on email practices puts Clinton on defense
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/scathing-report-on-email-practices-puts-hillary-clinton-on-defense/
Steve:
It’s harder to do than you may think. You can’t have the classified material on the computer that is attached to the public internet. You’d have to do some thing like put a thumb drive in your computer in the secure area, copy the classified data, walk out of the secure area with the classified data, copy the data to your computer attached to the public internet.. then you can send it.
Each of those steps are illegal, so you’d be guilty on at least four counts.
If Hillary did that (there is no indication she did that I’ve seen), she deserves jail time. I think it’s very unlikely anything like this happened.
The sort of things that did happen: 1) she received emails that contained information that was classified in the US from foreign sources. 2) She received emails contains press reports that contain classified information. 3) She forwarded emails that contained classified information that arrived via unsecure channels.
PA:
It’s not clear to me she violated any laws. If she did, she should pay for her crimes.
As to honestly and transparency…if you think politicians are honest and transparent, then you haven’t been paying attention.
Glenn Stehle:
I really don’t. I don’t plan on voting for Hillary or Donald. [It’s a toss up which one of those two has worse judgement.]
The only one I really don’t want to see in there is Bernie, who would be the biggest catastrophe since Jimmie Carter.
My interests are in preserving our freedom, so I don’t want to see any more power being ceded to bureaucrats than necessary. They want more, which is what this fight really is about. (Hillary’s email server is just a context for a power grab, IMO.)
As to your link, CBS News favors Sanders and is doing its best to hurt Clinton. So there no news there (literally).
In the end, whether it hurts Hillary is an empirical question. If it doesn’t damage her in the polls in the long run, then it didn’t hurt her, otherwise it did. No reason for us to debate what the future holds, since we can just sit and watch.
Anyway, my opinion is the one doing the real damage is Sanders with his fire bombing of the Democrats. That’ll teach them to let a closet communist [/tongueincheek] into their building. They are getting what they deserve.
Carrick, the officer in my link didn’t send any documents at all that I am aware of so you don’t have to act like a spy to break the law. I agree that picturing her as performing the same sort of activities as Snowden seems incredibly unlikely.
Steven:
In your example, the Marine officer was facing military discipline. He’s not being charged with a crime. Obviously that’s not apropos to civilians.
Mishandling classified information is a crime both in the military and in the civilian world.That is what the marine was charged with:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/29/us/marine-classified-info-investigation/index.html
I was wrong about the document, though. It appears he had attached one.
To me the very most damning part of the report was: Clinton has said over and over that she’s very open about discussion the email issue, that she will “talk to anyone” about it. The report says that she, and her aides, all refused to cooperate with the investigation. How in the world can she possibly explain that? Who would she talk to if not the Inspector General for the State Department?
Obama Won’t Answer Questions About Hillary Email Server, Wall Street Speeches
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/26/obama_wont_answer_questions_about_hillary_email_server_wall_street_speeches.html
The right is starting to rise for the obvious reasons (mass immigration, globalization, kulturbolschewismus ).
The left is starting to show its totalitarian roots with the NeverTrump crowd and the Bill Kristol (meth) vow to field a third party candidate to destroy Trump. (NeoCons are leftist Trotskyites).
Europe is seeing the same thing. Leftist EU head Junker said he would enact special clauses to freeze out the right wing candidate in Austria, had he won (he narrowly lost, possibly by fraud).
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/24/eu-vows-use-new-powers-block-elected-far-right-populists-power/
I have to wonder if the current leftist establishment will actually let Trump in, even if he wins (which he probably will).
The anti-right holocaust narrative has been a 70 year machine to convince people that anyone right of center is Hitler. The Frankfurt school has programmed minds in America and abroad that everyone right of center is an ‘authoritarian personality’. The only people not authoritarian are those who reject their parents, Christianity and western society.
http://www.ajcarchives.org/AJC_DATA/Files/5A52.PDF
Here’s how it would play out:
George Soros ups funding for black lives matter to increase civil discord. Obama moves inner city folk into the suburbs (he has vowed to do so) on section 8 housing. The suburbs revolt (because they don’t want to become like Dallas, where this already happened and created horrific crime). The country totters on Civil War and unrest. Obama declares martial law and states Trump cannot be allowed to be president because we can Never Again have a facist.
Then we have the facist Obama running the country.
I give this scenario a %20 percent chance.
I forgot to mention, Kristol (meth) actually wants a third party candidate so neither Hillary nor Trump gets 270 delegates.
Then the house of representatives (NeoCons) get to choose their third party candidate.
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html#no270
This is the level of anti-Democratic sentiment in the left today (don’t forget, the NeoCons are the old anti-Stalin pro-Trotsky center left).
You’ve gone from prophet to ridiculous giving a 1 in 5 chance that Obama will declare martial law, dopey.
This Bill Kristol?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
He is the little head.
Self-defeating prophesy?
It doesn’t hurt to yell about the possibility, if you think it reduces the chance of it.
So it doesn’t hurt to yell about the possibility of catastrophic global warming?
I beg to differ. Classic wisdom illustrates the adverse consequence in Aesop’s fable “The Boy Who Cried Wolf”.
What seems to be the problem? I’m laying out a possible scenario. I suspect in history most revolutionaries moments arrived without people necessarily expecting them, else they would have squashed it.
4/5 chance it won’t happen.
“I give this scenario a %20 percent chance.”
Based upon that there’s a 100% chance that you’re an imbecile.
“Springer 3-15-16: Cruz will start winning states now as Rubio and Kasich primary voters start pulling the lever for Cruz in a two-man race.
The question for you now is are you going to be a sore loser the rest of your life or grow up and get behind Ted Cruz when he wins the nomination fair and square?”
https://judithcurry.com/2016/03/15/u-s-presidential-election-discussion-thread-2/#comment-771797
You are correct, there is an imbecile present.
“Nickels 3-18-16: Actually he is blowing Ted Cruz off the map with an overwhelming majority.”
And a prophet.
https://judithcurry.com/2016/03/15/u-s-presidential-election-discussion-thread-2/#comment-772423
“Sigh”, the post started out mostly accurate, then veered off into the bushes.
I’m not sure where this “Obama is going to stage a coup” stuff comes from, paranoia on the right or wishfully thinking on the left.
While Obama has been trying to replace decent and honest military commanders with left-thinking people, he hasn’t replaced enough.
His “strongly disapprove” number hangs around 40% while his “strong approve number averages 25%.and has a hard core of 20%.
If he tried a coup the majority of the country would be against him.
Further – Bill in his stump speeches points out Obama’s failings which proves that anybody, even a Clinton, can be of service to the nation.
Obama has proven that we could have done a lot worse than Bill.
Yeah, the right is arising from years of abuse. Yeah, there are a lot of left wing closet totalitarians. But we aren’t a third world country yet so no coup.
‘I’m not sure where this “Obama is going to stage a coup” stuff comes from, paranoia on the right or wishfully thinking on the left’
I agree (my 4/5), I think this is further down the road. A Hillary presidency might get us there. I do sense trouble, anywhere from 6 months to 20 years from now.
In order to get anywhere near conditions which would allow for the possibility of a coup or martial law, this nation would have to see a dramatic rise in domestic terrorism. Even then, the odds are low. Too many citizens who are armed and know how to shoot.
Well, we have seen a rising in domestic terrorism. Obama has done more damage to the infrastructure than 9/11. But he only has about 7 more months in office.
The Clintons are now learning that turnabout is fair play, and what it’s like to take a knife to a gunfight.
Why Trump is dredging up 1990s attacks against the Clintons
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/24/politics/donald-trump-clinton-1990s-scandals/index.html
Is there anybody who actually believes this tripe?
Trump is dredging up dirt because he thinks he can use it against her. Simple and probably effective and consistent with his personality.
Trump is a verbal bully. One thing that bully’s do is justify why they are a bully by pointing to the behavior of the other person. Always the victim, the Donald is.
“One thing that bully’s do is justify why they are a bully by pointing to the behavior of the other person.”
Do you have some pop psychology reference for that claim or did you simply make it up out of thin air?
Is there anybody who actually believes this tripe?
Only liberals and progressives disbelieve true “tripe” when it conflicts with their viewpoints. And even lie about it.
Trump was conducting a issues oriented campaign when he was viciously attacked by Hillary and her goons.
Trump did what any sensible person does, when someone who is your moral inferior by any objective standard, viciously attacks you personally,. He counter attacked.
Politico seems to be giving libertarians too much credit:
“This difference in worldviews maps neatly into differences in policy. Nationalists support immigration and trade deals only if they improve the living standards of citizens of the nation. For the new, globally minded progressives, the mere well-being of American workers is not a good enough reason to oppose immigration or trade liberalization. It’s an argument that today’s progressive globalists have borrowed from libertarians: immigration or trade that depresses the wages of Americans is still justified if it makes immigrants or foreign workers better off.”
Or stated otherwise. Am I to harm a person by saying he cannot pack turkeys in Worthington?
“Among younger Americans, who tend to prefer Democrats to Republicans, support for free trade is high: 67 percent of 18- to 29-year-olds say trade agreements are good for the country.”
Perhaps education has not failed us. While the establishment is good at keeping libertarians out of office, they are not so good at keeping their ideas out.
“As populist labor liberalism declines within the Democratic party, employer-friendly and finance-friendly libertarianism will grow. The Democrats of 2030 may be more pro-market than the Republicans.”
Whenever it’s convenient or advantageous, we are libertarians. That might be the best I can get. We’ve been a minor party for decades. Nice we are able to attend this party.
‘Never Gary Johnson’: He’s Not Conservative and Not Even All That Libertarian
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435704/gary-johnson-libertarian-party-2016-conservatives
Fiscal Policy Report Card on America’s
Governors: 2002
“The four governors proposing or enacting the largest income tax rate cuts during their tenures are Gary Johnson (New Mexico), Frank Keating
(Oklahoma), Ben Cayetano (Hawaii), and Judy Martz (Montana).”
“Gary Johnson held off a big-spending legislature with three budget vetoes in 2002.”
“Gary Johnson has gained a national reputation as a maverick governor. He is probably best known for endorsing drug legalization, because
he says the war on drugs has done more harm than good. Johnson sports a libertarian attitude toward government. He favors school vouchers, term limits, privately run prisons, lean budgets, and deep tax cuts. He is a genuine citizen-lawmaker, having never held public office before winning the statehouse in 1994. Governingmagazine said that “no governor has been more open in his contempt for the opposition party or the legislative leaders than Johnson.”
In his first term, he vetoed 200 bills—many of them spending bills, which he labeled as profligate. The state Democrats made defeating Johnson their top priority in 1998, but he won anyway. The feuding continued and his veto total is now up to 750. Only a handful have been overridden—unfortunately one of those overrides was of the 2003 budget.”
Why did Johnson oversee a rise in spending?
“The Speaker of the House in New Mexico, Ben Lujan, recently noted after an override of a Johnson veto: “There is no executive fiat in this state. The governor must have the consent of the legislature for fiscal action.”
http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa454.pdf
The bottom line remains that while Gary Johnson was governor of New Mexico state spending nearly doubled from 1995 – 2003, a spending increase of 7.9% per year. His successor Democrat Bill Richardson did little better. Richardson’s successor Sussana Martinez who took office in 2011 did a great job. The state is spending less now than it did 5 years ago so she’s managed spending growth at less than 0%.
Maybe Johnson had good intentions with all those vetoes but his ability to get things done is completely lacking. He can whine but he cannot lead.
Privately run prisons is one of the worst ideas ever. The US corrections system from soup to nuts needs to be hugely downsized. Privatizing means you add a profit incentive and lobbyists wanting to grow it even larger. Only the government can gut the huge prison industry and keep it that way. But the gov’t hasn’t any incentive to do it either because it’s a huge bureaucracy with many, many entrenched gov’t employees from bailiffs and judges and court reporters to attorneys and probation officers to prison guards, janitors, laundry services and everything else you imagine that gets a piece of the taxpayer money funding it all.
“The bottom line remains that while Gary Johnson was governor of New Mexico state spending nearly doubled from 1995 – 2003, a spending increase of 7.9% per year.”
You’re just parroting what Spiller claims in the National Review and you have very clearly not bothered to check those facts. Hell, the National Review also published this article:
“Spiller starts by attacking Johnson’s fiscal record, claiming that he is a “big spender” compared with successors Richardson (a Democrat) and Martinez (a Republican). One problem is that Spiller “credits” Johnson with spending money he had little control over. His spending numbers include federal dollars that flow into the state for everything from Medicaid to education. Including just the General Fund that the legislature and governor must agree to each year, Johnson’s first budget was $2.7 billion and his final budget, eight years later, was $3.9 billion (an increase of about 41 percent).
Thus, under Johnson, New Mexico’s General Fund spending grew by 4.67 percent annually, not the outrageous 7.29 percent rate cited by Spiller.”
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435804/gary-johnson-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-election-2016
Who is right and who is wrong? Couldn’t be bothered to read the Cato analysis? To busy being all bottom line?
Look, increasing a budget by even 4.67 percent annually is not what I would expect of a Libertarian candidate, but if you have to lie about a person’s budget record what makes you so sure your cause is so just?
“Only the government can gut the huge prison industry and keep it that way. ”
The surest way to do that would be to being by repealing the legislative bills prohibiting drugs and by the people embracing their inherent political power, understanding that they are expected to know the law, and when they finally come to know the law, recognize that we have moved to far away from jurisprudence that facilitates remedy entrenching ourselves in a punishment mode.
There will always be murderers and thieves and other criminals, but our prison system is a bloated as it is because every single state and the federal government has made it their mission to find activities that they can prohibit and penalize.
How is term limits supposed to be libertarian? Government imposing limits on who people can vote for.
You can believe whatever you want but this pretty much tells the story of Gary Johnson and limited government. A simple graph of size of gov’t workforce in New Mexico from 1990 onward. Note that the number of employees grew every single year while Johnson was governor and then the hiring slowed but still increased when Richardson came along. When Martinez took over it started dropping like a stone.
I agree with Libertarian plank on recreational drug prohibition and other victimless crimes in general committed by consenting adults.
Rather than punishing users of illegal drugs, which clearly hasn’t worked very well and costs untold billions in corrections, we should instead legalize and tax the crap out of them like we do with alcohol and tobacco. Only instead of using that tax money for other purposes give it back out as a reward for non-users. That’s a sane, common-sense stick and carrot approach. The way it is set up now all taxpayers get punished by footing the bill for the corrections industry.
“Only instead of using that tax money for other purposes give it back out as a reward for non-users. That’s a sane, common-sense stick and carrot approach. ”
There is nothing sane, nor libertarian about taxing addicts to create a trust fund for non-addicts. Using government force to take from some to give away to others is libertarian principle as I understand them. There are just reasons for having a government, extortion isn’t one of them.
“Using government force to take from some to give away to others is libertarian principle as I understand them.’
Should be “isn’t” or “is not” not “is”.
Huh? We tax all kinds of undesirable behaviors and subsidize the desirable. Short and long term capital gains tax is a good example to encourage investment instead of speculation. Mortgage interest deduction is another to encourage home ownership. Tobacco is taxed high to stop the health carnage it creates over time.. Electricity in many locations is sold at progressively higher rates as individual consumption rises to encourage conservation.
The problem with people like you is you don’t think for yourself. You instead pick a tribe and let the tell you what to think.
“Huh? We tax all kinds of undesirable behaviors and subsidize the desirable.”
That doesn’t make it libertarian and just because everyone is doing it doesn’t make it sane either. A capital gains tax is an income tax. Income tax in perpetuity is not sane, and certainly no libertarian. In 1913 the national debt was just under $3 billion. The newly enacted income tax was sold in part as a way to pay off the national debt. More than a hundred years later here we are in Sanity Land with a nearly $20 trillion debt, because that’s how sanity rolls bro’.
Tobacco is not taxed stop any kind of carnage, it is a revenue raising bill and only willful naivete can turn that into a bill to stop carnage. The power to tax, as Chief Justice Marshall once said, is the power to destroy, and if the government wanted to stop the carnage caused by tobacco they could tax it into oblivion. That ain’t happening.
“The problem with people like you is you don’t think for yourself. You instead pick a tribe and let the tell you what to think.”
You might want to take that wooden log out of your eye before you go around deciding what other people’s problems are. Besides, when you offer unsolicited diagnosis you always run the risk of discovering the exact value the diagnosed place on your diagnosis. Heal thyself bro’.
Peace,
JPZ
I just heard Trump admit last night — as he held his hands up to his ears in a most un-presidential manner — that he can barely stomach hearing crim-Hill’s scratchy, screaming voice. Clinton seems to have that effect on many folks and I assume all, non-progressives so it seems political affiliation has a lot to do with being sensitive.
It is often said that Trump is “tapping into an anger” that has always been there. I don’t think it is mainly that. He is fueling anger that wasn’t there with words that are incendiary and even completely wrong, but he says them in such a way that some people just believe what he says must be true for him to be so angry about it. His idea is to make America afraid of the world in as many ways as he can think of, so that the people cling to him as the only one that recognizes their newfound fears, and it is working with some. His motto should be Make America Afraid Again. So it is not tapping into anger, but actually creating it around his own somewhat paranoid worldview.
Make America Afraid
You mean the way the libtards do it with catastrophic global warming?
Does AGW give you paranoia about the world?
Answer the question.
Do the math, 1 C for a half doubling (observed) is 2 C per doubling is 4 C at 700 ppm.
Answer the question, Jim D.
Is global warming presented to the public as something to fear?
How is that different than presenting globalization to the US public as something to fear?
This is about motivation Jim, not an argument over facts. If it was over fact you’d lose because it’s easy to measure median household income in the US. This is what has people rejecting business as usual from both sides of the aisle because when it comes to globalization they’re both equally guilty they just favor different industries.
DS, OK, if science says global warming comes with costs, whether you fear what science says or just distrust the scientists is up to you. It is a plain choice between science and not.
You sound like a Biblical literalist “it’s a plain choice between believing the Bible or not”. The Bible is just a string of Greek and Hebrew/Aramaic letters (not even word separators in the oldest versions). All the rest is interpretation.
Same goes for your “science”, even if it was real science. It’s your interpretation of your so-called “science” you want people to believe. Another interpretation, another estimate of risk.
It would appear that I’m the one providing all the refereed science and you’re just making things up, Jim. I’m still waiting for you to provide me with a reference where the Met Office said global warming due to anthropogenic CO2 passed the 1C mark. You made it up.
But you STILL haven’t answered the question about whether we’re supposed to fear anthropogenic global warming. Whether it’s a valid alarm or not is beside the point. It’s a warning of adverse consequences regardless of whether it’s true or not. It doesn’t seem to me to be unlike Trump warning that globalization is killing US manufacturing and harming the economy. That’s an alarm regardless of whether it’s true or false. You don’t get to have your cake and eat it too by condemning some alarmism while giving other alarmism a nod of approval.
Do the math, 1 C for a half doubling (observed) is 2 C per doubling is 4 C at 700 ppm.
The effect of CO2 is not linear. It is a geometric diminishing return. The more CO2 that is added, the less effect of each individual molecule.
Therefore, doing the math, 1C for a half doubling (observed) is not 2C per doubling. It is less than 2C per doubling, even stipulating that all warming is 100% due to CO2 and associated feedbacks.
And how does that leave us at +4C at 700 ppm? It appears that you think that X amount of CO2 emitted in 1950 (or 1900) has the same warming effect as X amount emitted tin 2015. But surely that is incorrect.
Evan Jones | May 27, 2016 at 6:56 pm |
Do the math, 1 C for a half doubling (observed) is 2 C per doubling is 4 C at 700 ppm.
The effect of CO2 is not linear. It is a geometric diminishing return. The more CO2 that is added, the less effect of each individual molecule.
Aaaahhhh….. I can’t let you two keep doing this.
Let’s assume the original concentration was 280. 400 is not half a doubling. It is 1.43 or a 43% increase.
But for the sake of argument lets say 1 = x * ln (1.43) and the coefficient x is = 1/ln(1.43).
The change to 560 PPM is 1.94°C, and 1120 PPM is 3.89°C.
700 PPM is 2.57°C.
@ PA | May 27, 2016 at 7:20 pm |
Perhaps a little to the right, I think, but definitely a field goal.
Jim D:
I too think we could take what you say about Trump and apply it to the alarmists. So if he sees it work in one case, it’s not surprising for him to copy what works. Immigration, the control knob of my economic well being. We are going to build a wall. We are going to decarbonize, and we are going to make big oil pay for it.
The difference is that what Trump does is not fact-based. It is just fearmongering. What Trump does is more like when the “skeptics” fearmonger about mitigation policies collapsing the economy or leading to world government.
Neither is climate alarmism.
Jim D:
Instead of facts how about theories? The theory is everything else cancels itself out. The fact is CO2 causes warming. But it is put together with a theory that hasn’t been proved, that everything else is noise with nothing more than a stable average. The pause caused efforts to give structure to the noise with theories that perhaps a few times resulted in new facts. But the facts about the structure and operation of the climate I think remains full of theories. Do you think rolling out windmills and ethanol was fact based? There were economic theories that said it wouldn’t work. Trump has this strange theory about immigration, but don’t we all? Some will say the facts don’t support him. Some will say they do.
Ragnaar, business as usual gets us to 700 ppm CO2 and about 4 C by 2100 with still rising levels, using TCR estimates based on observations. If you want to defend BAU, that situation is where you need to start.
Ethanol might have worked if it had been required to be 100% fossil free. No fossil-fuel-powered farm equipment.
The percentages would have had to have been much smaller, but it would have stimulated a market for something besides diverting food to fuel.
Or it might work today: we could imagine farms where all the farm equipment uses hydrogen fuel cells from solar power. The ethanol would be much more expensive, but the requirement could be, say, 1% rather than 10%.
Jim D:
What does unusual business look like? We could plant some trees. Try to in low tech ways to have agriculture restore some carbon to the soil. Look at new nuclear. Build some pumped hydro storage once in awhile.
Jim D | May 25, 2016 at 7:52 pm |
Ragnaar, business as usual gets us to 700 ppm CO2 and about 4 C by 2100 with still rising levels, using TCR estimates based on observations. If you want to defend BAU, that situation is where you need to start.
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Wrong. TCR based on observation is 1.5C per doubling. 700ppm is barely one doubling from pre-industrial. Try again dopey.
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ImmigrationGlobalization, the control knob of my economic well being.”Fixed it for ya. +many
So in other words Trump is an alarmist?
James –
=>> ” So in other words Trump is an alarmist?”
Check out his response to Ebola. He panicked. Thought the sky was falling.
Whats funny is to watch his toadies fall for the con job that he’s some working class hero tough guy.
Yes James. Trump is an alarmist. But the alarm is about things easily measured with immediate negative impacts. The median wage in the US has fallen 8% since Obama took office. Manufacturing really has been displaced overseas creating a dearth of entry-level jobs. Illegal immigrants really are crossing our southern border in vast numbers creating criminal and social burdens. It’s not a theoretical problem 50 or 100 years in the future it’s causing harm right now.
Ragnaar, BAU is population growing to 9 or 10 billion and per capita emissions growing as they have. That makes 700 ppm.
==> “But the alarm is about things easily measured with immediate negative impacts. ”
Heh.
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I think you’re wrong, Jim. What Trump is saying is fact based and civilization collapsing from global warming is the fear mongering.
Jim D: “Ragnaar, business as usual gets us to 700 ppm CO2 and about 4 C by 2100”
No it does nothing of the kind.
See the post above by PA at 7:20 pm where he explains thus:
Why do you persist in telling the same porkies time and time again, even when you have been proven to be purely making stuff up?
It’s a mystery!
Yes, TCR is 2 C per doubling as PA finally showed, given 1 C at 400 ppm, in a roundabout way. ECS is larger than TCR, and the experts say 3 C per doubling. Now that you have figured out the mathematics, work out what 700 ppm gives you for equilibrium at 3 C per doubling. (Clue: I gave you the answer before).
I thought that paranoia was the whole point of your CAGW marketing?
They’re certainly paranoid about Exxon!
Jim D
take a trip to Baltimore
where the police are hesitant
hang out by Inner Harbor at night and wait for SLR
nothing whatever to be afraid of
perhaps you’ll meet some nice justice involved youth
Oh it’s ‘a double ethical bind’ alright, the balance
betwixt following the scientific method and making
the world a better place, that is, ‘reducing the risk
of potential disastrous climate change.’
After all, didn’t Gordon Brown say, back in 2009, that
we have less than fifty days to save the planet?
Well, it took longer than fifty days, but the planet is at last safe from Gordon Brown.
Now we have to save it from that slithery yuppie Cameron.
moso, if I was a paranoid anrtho-warmoid, it
‘d be enuff ter make me hypo-apostroph-ate.
That Cameron fear campaign regardin’ Mother
Europa, only the hive will protect us – save us!
Jim D reporting from his world, which has little resemblance to the real one.
Seriously Jim, if what you say is true, Trump would have flamed out as a candidate months ago.
That’s what you would think. He has a lot of believers, however. Remember his birtherism, for example.
Don’t tell my you believed that poorly photo-shopped birth certificate? Hawaii never did produce an original. It would seem such a simple thing to do. All the president had to do was give permission. But noooooooooooo…
So his American mother went to Kenya to give birth just so that they could post his birth announcement in a Hawaii newspaper, and the idea behind this was…? Why didn’t she just stay in Hawaii to give birth? Seems it would have been much easier. What’s the thinking of the birthers on this question, because it defies any logic.
Jim D, as usual you side step the topic and shift to a different one. You made the claim that Trump’s rhetoric is creating the anger, rather than tapping into it. So stick to your claim. Unless you are willing to admit you were talking out of your butt. Not that we don’t already know that.
Yes, Trump gives credence to conspiracy theories by shouting them at his crowds on TV. This doesn’t make them any less wrong, but some become more convinced just because he says them out loud. He is simply expanding wrongheaded ideas to more people that are gullible to his words.
Jim it is your type of mind set which is part if the problem. That people who don’t think as you do must be gullible or not as smart as you.
You are wrong. Many people are angry. And neither party has represented them.
Trump has taken the popular stand on a number of issues. This bears no resemblance to what the mainstream elite think or what the political class thinks.
The elite have been running roughshod over America. Trump is tapping in to that.
Trump is one of those elite who runs roughshod, bulldozing homes for his parking lots, faking a university to profit from the unsuspecting, paying almost no income tax and proud of it. If less of his type of elites dodged their taxes, the country would be better off.
==> ” Trump has taken the popular stand on a number of issues. ”
Indeed. Like the stand against autism caused by vaccines. Thank god for the anti-elite working class billionaire born with the silver spoon in his mouth.
The autism thing is like climate change.
Bad science misinforms people.
There is about as much evidence for the autism-vaccine link as there is for CAGW.
Much like CAGW in the 1990s, with the older vaccines there appeared to be a causal relationship.
Current understanding casts doubt on both theories. But Trump is smart and his opinions can be informed, unlike global warmers.
Jim D, honest people play by the rules of the game. Smart honest people use the rules to best advantage without breaking them. It doesn’t mean they approve of the rules. Non sequitur. Trump has no need of more money. He needs to win. He’s a narcissist and he wants to win for the millions and millions of people who are cheering for him. That is what drives him. It took me a while to understand what motivates him. Winning is what motivates him. As long as what he wants to win is aligned with my interests and I think he can do it then it’s an easy choice. I couldn’t possibly care less about his personality so long as the job gets done and by God it sure looks like he’s getting the job done so far. Few people in the political prediction business thought he could possibly win the Republican nomination yet he vanquished 16 others and emerged the winner. The same talking heads thought he could never beat Hillary in a general election yet in a few short weeks he’s pulled even with her in head-to-head polling and he’s still rising while Hillary is sinking.
At some point one should admit they were mistaken and learn from it. When will you learn?
Winning at other peoples’ expense is not a quality we would look for in a President. He shows no morality when his victims include those who were duped into Trump University. He didn’t care about them, just their money. As a President he multiplies his ways of getting money from the less fortunate for his own purposes. Why would he not take advantage of them to support his pet projects, like mass deportation and the wall. He complains about big business moving jobs and headquarters overseas to avoid taxes and reduce their costs, and these are just business decisions like his own that are no more just. It is hypocrisy for him to show visible anger about such business elites when his own behavior is indistinguishable from them, reducing taxes paid and hiring cheap foreign labor at every opportunity. Business elites would look to Trump to maintain the status quo that still serves him so well, and not to change it in some way that restricts his way of doing things and increases his taxes when he leaves office.
Jim D, Trump made $10 million from Trump University over the course of 6 years. He was paid $230 million for his time on Apprentice. How much time and attention do you imagine he spent managing the day-to-day operations of a piddling concern like Trump University? He had two partners in the business. Is any of it their fault? And fault for what? There are three pending lawsuits none of which have found Trump guilty of one damn thing. You support constitutional due process and presumed innocence, right?
Find something where he was found guilty if you can. Billionaires get sued all the time for the mere fact that they have deep pockets.
He shows no morality
Compared to Hillary, Trump is a frickin’ saint.
“It is often said that Trump is “tapping into an anger” that has always been there. I don’t think it is mainly that.”
I think you’re wrong. I think the biggest thing is that Trump says things like “Let’s talk about Muslim immigration” and he gets shouted down and told he’s being un-PC, racists, whatever, and the man-in-the-street thinks “Why can’t we even TALK about this? What is being hidden? Is Trump right to be angry that we can’t even talk about it?” I think the answer is that people do want to talk about it and should talk about it – after all, if it’s no big deal, that will come out and people who were afraid of it will see there’s nothing to fear. Refusing to consider even talking about it seems … almost like the people saying you can’t are getting some advantage from doing so, and since I don’t know what that is, I want to find out. I want to hear both sides and make up my own mind. That’s democracy, isn’t it?
I think you’re wrong. I think the biggest thing is that Trump says things like “Let’s talk about Muslim immigration” and he gets shouted down and told he’s being un-PC, racists, whatever, and the man-in-the-street thinks “Why can’t we even TALK about this? What is being hidden?
The left-right dynamic is sort of interesting.
The right views the left opinions as simply wrong and goes “what of bunch of idiots”.
The left views their position as the only position and someone who disagrees with them is a bad person, they’re “e-e-e-e-e-e-e-v-i-l” and they should be punished for their transgression. Those on the right are homophobes, racists, polluters, and a threat to civilization and the planet.
And if that isn’t illegal it ought to be.,To someone on the left, the viewpoint of the right isn’t a viewpoint a decent normal person should have and they should be stopped from expressing it.
Being a liberal or progressive is more like being in a cult than having a political position.
His ideas should be brought out into the open. Yes, let’s talk about it. It is only good for everyone to know what he means about stopping all Muslims entering the country, and his proposal for a registration for those already here. Do they have to go to their police stations to register or can they do it by mail? How does he track them all down? How will he test whether someone who claims to be non-Muslim, but has a Muslim name really is Muslim, or can they just fool the system this way? Maybe he can also talk about whether he has any special surveillance planned for them, or would prefer to just deport them along with the Mexicans to make things easier. I am sure he has thought these things through and has answers to all these questions, so we need to hear them.
“His ideas should be brought out into the open. Yes, let’s talk about it. It is only good for everyone to know what he means…”
Indeed. And his opponents do not have the right to tell him that what he wants to talk about is a forbidden topic and wont be discussed. Neither does the media. Both are free to ridicule whatever and whomever they like, just as Trump is.
I am not a US citizen or resident, but one thing I know about Americans is that they don’t like being told what to think just a bit more than they don’t like being told what to say. The “mainstream” response to Trump only makes more want to support him – not because they agree with him, but because the want to keep their ability to discuss ANYTHING in the political environment. As they rightly should, IMO.
Just because people say it is wrongheaded, that shouldn’t stop Trump talking about it. It never did with any other issues. If he wants this as a plank of the Republican Party platform at the convention, he needs to get the Republicans on board with it first.
kneel63
+many
“New ideas are always criticized – not because an idea lacks merit, but because it might turn out to be workable, which would threaten the reputations of many people whose opinions conflict with it. Some people may even lose their jobs.” ~ Anon
I still think that with a nutty guy like Mr. Donald Trump, there is a good chance that school children will one day hear the story of a tycoon who planted an apple orchard with lots of parking.
Dr. Lindzen spells out why the people are voting for Trump and who isn’t (because they’re riding the gravy train):
Absolutely. Oil and gas companies will prevail because, as even the IEA admits, 75% of energy use in 2030 will be fossil fuel based.
This situation is not new. Even back in 1991 with the Gulf Wars supposedly fought for Cheney’s oil interests, I thought the O & G companies didn’t care as a whole. The midEast would sell the West their oil anyway, as they wanted American money. If they charged a lot, the price for domestic oil would rise. If the oil came to America, it would be transported and processed by American companies – with a premium handling fee. Business-wise, it wouldn’t really matter to Exxon et al.
So why the fuss? Power. Mideast oil, climate change policies, both are driven by the desire for political power. Domestic or international, I’m not clear on the.split, but it IS about the power to create a world in the image of a select group of men and women at the top of our global social hierarchy.
Hard to cheer for anyone these days, but nationalists get my grudging vote for the moment.
The movement back toward empire is getting pretty clear. Flags and borders are for giggling at, now even Australia enters Eurovision (but we’re keeping it non-Caucasian!). Merkel likes German flags the way Bergoglio likes Catholicism.
And the new empires are already shoddy, multi-culti messes, just like those piles of junk that fell apart a century ago, which at least had the excuse that they were old.
Haphazard balkanising and too-polite centralising are already giving way to frank compulsion. Germany sort-of wants an EU force-of-sorts (and we were wondering how they were going to re-arm!) and the stacking of the EU top echelons with Germans is a sign of impatience with all the past dithering. Yes, those Germans are twitching again!
Russia’s nibbling away at tracts of Eastern Europe which are hard to like or defend. Nice bear…down, boy!
If Syria can’t be dismantled it would only take a move down the Caspian for Russia to hold the energy tap. Then the neo-Ottomans will only have the migrant tap.
Someone shrewder than I will have a better idea who will align with whom. Someone closer to the centre will know if all the bombing and destabilisation was deliberate for oil and the petrodollar or just good for the hardware industry or just dumb violence by dumb brutes like Hillary.
I’m for borders and flags because, like democracy, they are the worst alternatives except for all the rest.
Not related to the election, yet, but still an important story. And not because of the idiotic blaming of CAGW, but for the human cost.
http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/climate-change/welcome-to-india-a-country-gripped-by-51c-heatwave/news-story/04d0ded07b8f6303280efc75a8163103
Don’t see how a record temp in India can imply much about the state of the climate. The world’s and northern hemisphere’s highest official temp was in 1913 (Death Valley), and the southern hemisphere’s highest official temp was in 1960 (South Australia). Even the daffy Guardian, in reporting on the present emergency, recognises that Africa’s highest reading was in 1931, South America’s in 1905, and Europe’s in 1977.
This years reading in India of 51 C is just .4 of a degree higher than the previous record from 1956. So should we have concluded before this month that AGW was not real because India had its hottest day sixty years ago?
The shortage of adults is getting acute.
The usual suspects tried blaming the recent drought in Texas on global warming. Now in what they are saying is the warmist year ever we’re getting so much rain I’m forgetting what hot dry weather is like. We got more rain in the past three months than we had in the past three years.
Obvious to anyone is that global warming is a theory that explains everything. Whatever happens it is somehow explained by it.
“A theory that explains everything explains nothing.” ~Karl Popper
David, I’d say the climate mullahs have forgotten-on-purpose the whopper:
http://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/when-the-sky-ran-dry/
A lot to forget! That Great Global Memory Hole must be getting pretty crammed. The rule seems to be that any history they can’t retrofit gets the flush, regardless of size.
The New Man at Year Zero only needs to know things are worse. He is not to ask “worse than what?”. He is being trained not to ask. Just like New Man is being trained to use the same bathrooms as New Woman.
Hey David, thought yer didn’t like Karl Popper? )
… ‘Open Society and its Enemies.’ Hits the nail on
the head regardin’ philosopher kings and top heavy
bureaucracies.
‘One of the most important books of the twentieth century,
Karl Popper’s The Open Society and Its Enemies is an
uncompromising defense of liberal democracy and a
powerful attack on the intellectual origins of totalitarianism.
Popper was born in 1902 to a Viennese family of Jewish
origin. He taught in Austria until 1937, when he emigrated
to New Zealand in anticipation of the Nazi annexation of
Austria the following year, and he settled in England in
1949. Before the annexation, Popper had written mainly
about the philosophy of science, but from 1938 until the
end of the Second World War he focused his energies on
political philosophy, seeking to diagnose the intellectual
origins of German and Soviet totalitarianism. The Open
Society and Its Enemies was the result.
An immediate sensation when it was first published in two
volumes in 1945, Popper’s monumental achievement has
attained legendary status on both the Left and Right and
is credited with inspiring anticommunist dissidents during
the Cold War. Arguing that the spirit of free, critical inquiry
that governs scientific investigation should also apply to
politics, Popper traces the roots of an opposite,
authoritarian tendency to a tradition represented by Plato,
Marx, and Hegel.’
H/t Amazon.
I don’t know what made you think I don’t like Popper. I’ve quoted him dozens of times and rehashed his black swan narrative about falsification many times as well.
Apology, David, serfs miss things.
This former, left-wing democrat believes at least 97% of “consensus scientists” wil vote for Hillary in the general election. Since 97% of “consensus scientists” is a small number, Hillary may still lose the election.
I am an old-timer too. Growing up in a communist country saved me from a left-wing orientation. I survived socialism.
As small as we are, we only get to choose the horses. We can take rest in knowing that the winner of the race however, is already determined. Enjoy!
In the 2020 election, where will America be? It depends on what Trump does if he.loses. His ego might require fighting back with a very right wing “I was robbed by the corrupt establishment”. If so, watch out.
Or he could disappear, a lameass waanabe. Hard to predict. Trumpsters can go either way because the decision is not philosophical or political but narcissistic. Personality, not power, drives him forward.
“Personality, not power, drives him forward.”
If by that you mean a patriotic personality holding a genuine concern that the United States is being destroyed from within by global village one-world government libtards funded by multi-national corporations then yes I would agree that’s a fair description of Donald Trump.
The notion of “fascism” seems to get thrown around quite a bit in this election. I finally ran across an article that seems to do a good job with it.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/12/10/9886152/donald-trump-fascism
Now, if we can only get clarification on the other hundred labels people throw at Trump. lol
It becomes much harder when old comrades feel that and today ‘reactionaries’ no longer work.
What a skeptic!
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/05/26/world/trump-sends-shivers-spines-nations-trying-solidify-global-warming-pact/#.V0b2no-cGt-
I had not even thought of this as a possibility but the pieces of the puzzle is beginning to look like a Phoenix raising from the ashes. Maybe he actually followed the money and ended up there.
Skeptics now 50:50
Deniers sill running at 97%
From the article:
Phew! As if democracy and U.S. national sovereignty can so easily be dispensed with.
One thing’s for sure, Trump is not in favor of one world government, nor of the United States playing the role of world policeman or world savior from CAGW. And if the United States is going to play those roles, it is going to be well compensated for it.
Peter Drucker (1995) ‘Really Reinventing Government.’
‘Any organization, whether biological or social, needs to
change its basic structure if it significantly changes its size.
Any organization that doubles or triples in size needs to
be restructured. Similarly, any organization, whether a
business, a nonprofit, or a government agency, needs to
rethink itself once it is more than forty or fifty years old.
It has outgrown its policies and its rules of behavior. If it
continues in its old ways, it becomes ungovernable,
unmanageable, uncontrollable.’
Herewith …
http://www.theatlantic.com/past/politics/polibig/reallyre.htm
Exxon, Chevron Battle Environmental Drive to Cut Big Oil’s Reach
– See more at: http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?hpf=1&a_id=144728#sthash.4NNxQhOh.dpuf
Trump talks about national security, the economy, and how they both relate to coal production:
Here’s the money quote:
Whoever transcribed that got “moral bound” wrong. Context clearly shows it should be “moribund”. Trump’s pronunciation at 10:54 in the video sounds like mora-bound. I used the word moribund the other day with an old retired English teacher and then had to define it for her. Not a common word but a good word. A terrific word. How winners describe bad policies. A word winners use. And we’re going to start winning in this country. Winning big. Believe me. Big big wins.
Charles Murry, PJ O’Rourke and George Will are overreacting. Trump is going to be limeted in what he can do. He will have to hire, as he says, great people to carry out his agenda. Judging from this video, he’ll be spending most of his time preening over Air force One and firing people:
“Trump is going to be limeted in what he can do.”
The same would then apply to Hillary, right? And Obama. And George Bush.
I think that’s more or less true in a highly polarized political atmosphere but someone with true grassroots support that wins in a landslide? Or a truly effective chief executive that knows how to build consensus and cut deals? Kennedy and Johnson just 50 years ago got huge sweeping changes called “The Great Society” established. Maybe rare but occasionally the usual limits don’t apply. The next four years could potentially see five supreme court justices replaced. That’s a majority of them put in place by a single chief executive and a single senate. With younger occupants it effects change that will persist for a generation at least. With grassroots support anything is possible.
Obama hasn’t been limited enough due to the split Congress.
And the Supreme Court that shirks its Constitutional duty.
Here is a taste of just what Make America Great Again, is.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/trump-vows-undo-obamas-climate-agenda-appeal-oil-010404594–finance.html
My research has shown me that more United States Citizens agree with him, than disagree with him. If you don’t like him, you have a terrific problem on your horizon.
PJ was the first to retire, now we get to watch the other coconuts fall.
Trump will be fighting the establishment, while Hillary would be working with it to consolidate more power in Washington — that is making the US into more of a banana republic than Trump. But if we’re going to have a banana republic, at least Trump looks the part.
The drama Bush Dynastay, will be a hit on TV.
Tomgram: Michael Klare, The Oil World in Chaos
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176145/tomgram%3A_michael_klare%2C_the_oil_world_in_chaos/#more
Klare’s “logic” entails two errors:
1) His crystal ball envisions a future in which “world oil demand will in the not-so-distant future reach a peak and begin a long-term decline, ensuring that large reserves of petroleum will be left in the ground.” This future is far from certain.
2) The ailment that “petro-states” are now suffering from is not at all unique to petro-states. It is an ailment that all countries whose economies are not sufficiently diversified and that depend on the production and export of primary materials are vulnerable to. Commodity prices are highly volatile: They always have been and probably always will be. Things like Dutch Disease and Staples Theory work exactly the same for copper or soybeans as they do for oil.
The Progressive Economics Forum from Canada did an entire series of posts on the phenomenon:
In Latin America, with many economies heavily reliant on the production and export of primary materials, it is a topic of frequent discussion, such as this article in one of the Mexico City dailies:
Huh – Trump and Sanders to debate? http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/us/politics/donald-trump-bernie-sanders-debate.html
If Earth’s climate is less sensitive than predicted to rising levels atmospheric CO2 levels – as the latest research indicates – Mamma’s gonna need a brand new bag!
It does not matter who is elected president if that person is unable to take control of US policy away from the US National Academy of Sciences.
Here is Eisenhower’s JAN 1961 warning about the scientific-technological-elite that might try to take control of US policy:
That is exactly what the US National Academy of Sciences did.
New Study Predicts an Intolerably Hot World.
Researchers say that unless fossil fuels are kept in the ground, global temperatures could rise more than 11 degrees Fahrenheit by 2300.
http://www.takepart.com/article/2016/05/23/high-heat-global-warming-fossil-fuel-renewable-energy
Intolerable: Predictions > 95% wrong?
Examining John Christy’s Feb. 2nd testimony, Steve McIntyre calculates:
Are these warming predictions > 95% too hot? i.e., wrong?
When will we have serious quantitative model validation per the scientific method?
David Hagen,
When the Warmists first began making predictions several decades ago, the apocalypse was going to happen in a couple of decades.
That didn’t happen.
So in their newest round of predictions, the Warists predict the apocalypse is going to happen in two or three centuries. That’s far enough into the future so that they don’t have to worry about the embarrassment of being proved wrong again, at least not during their own liftetimes.
New Study Predicts an Intolerably Hot World.
The reason for temperatures the last several million years is the interaction of solar interaction of solar insolation (mostly as a result of Milankovitch cycles) and ice cover.
The 10.3 million km2 change in ice cover has more than twice the effect from albedo alone than any global change in CO2.
Further, an up to 3 mile thick ice sheet changes the whole energy exchange dynamics – look at the energy balance for the Himalayas vs low land India.
So, the weak CO2 forcing simply can’t cause the warming claimed. To warm the planet the amount claimed would require changing earth’s current tectonic layout. And CO2 doesn’t move continents.
ExxonMobil CEO: ending oil production ‘not acceptable for humanity’
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/may/25/exxonmobil-ceo-oil-climate-change-oil-production
A “proposal that would have required the company to publish an annual study of how its profits may be affected by public climate change policies” was easily defeated by shareholders by a 62% to 38% margin.
A similar proposal was defeated by Chevron shareholders, also on Wednesday, in 59% to 41% vote.
Trump Heads to Shale Country to Make Energy Policy Pitch
http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?hpf=1&a_id=144761
Exxon investors clear path for climate expert on board, defeat other resolutions
http://fuelfix.com/blog/2016/05/25/exxon-investors-vote-down-climate-change-resolutions/
It is an energy company. Board members should have expertise on on extracting energy. Energy is something you dig or pipe out of the ground.
If it was a Climate company that built climate it would make sense to have a Climate expert on board.
Perhaps they meant political climate issues.
IMO they’d do well to have an expert on solar PV and power→fuel on the board, but I’m not holding any of their stock, nor plan to, so I’m not concerned.
If they aren’t ready to compete when solar-powered fuel becomes competitive with fuel out of the ground, that’s their lookout.
OTOH, it wouldn’t surprise me if they have several quiet projects that will allow them to compete. Could this be a ploy to keep potential competitors in the dark?
Nah… Management of corporations that size just isn’t that smart. If they had it, they’d trumpet it.
China Moves Into U.S. Wind Sector
http://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Wind-Power/China-Moves-Into-US-Wind-Sector.html
McDonald’s Ex-CEO Is Right When He Says A $15 Minimum Wage Would Lead To Automation
I have a question for Jim D which is prompted by this exchange:
Jim D, it is unthinkable that Hillary Clinton could lose to Donald Trump in the November election.
But what if it happened? How would the environmental activist groups react? What would be their strategy for coping with an uncooperative president?
Let’s remember that the Environmental Protection Agency is a quasi-independent government organization and can make its own decisions regardless of who is president.
If Trump became president and began dismantling the Obama Administration’s climate change program, would the environmental activist groups begin filing lawsuits against the EPA in an attempt to force that agency to follow their climate change agenda?
Might one of those lawsuits demand that the EPA follow through on its 2009 Endangerment Finding and begin to regulate all of America’s greenhouse gas emissions — a demand those same activist groups have refused to embrace while Barack Obama has been president?
Suppose the environmental activist groups won their lawsuits and the EPA was forced to begin regulating all of America’s GHG emissions under sections 108, 111, and 202 of the Clean Air Act.
Jim D, if Donald Trump becomes president and the environmental activist groups begin suing the EPA, what kinds of arguments would you yourself be making in support of those lawsuits?
Jim D is using his own made-up numbers. Scholarly papers for TCR based on empirical evidence is about 1.5C/doubling and is given in several different peer-reviewed studies.
http://www.image.ucar.edu/idag/Papers/PapersIDAGsubtask1.3/Knutti_Tomassini_oceanheat.pdf
How JimD is calculating number of doublings needed to reach 700ppm is anyone’s guess. CO2 reached 350ppm in 1990. That is exactly one doubling away from 700ppm.
In that year the global average temperature anomaly was given as 0.2C. One doubling at the nominal observed TCR will raise that by 1.5C which is to say the end number is 1.7C whereas Jimbo’s half-assed, didn’t show his sources or work estimate, was a 4.0C rise.
Try again Jimbo.
At 400 ppm, we are already at 1 C for half a doubling. That makes 2 C per doubling right there. If TCR is 2 C, ECS is likely nearer 3 C (as the experts also say), so 700 ppm gives you 4 C.
Again, you are making up numbers out of thin air. Mine come from peer reviewed sources. I showed my work and data sources. Where are yours?
Support you claim “we are already at 1C for half a doubling”. That is factually wrong according to the sources I presented.
The UK Met Office says we recently crossed 1 C. 400 ppm mathematically is half a doubling ln(400/280) divided by ln(2) is 0.5. You can also do it other ways. Fitting the data since the Keeling curve started nearly 60 years ago, you get 0.01 C per ppm rise, which is over 2 C per doubling.
http://woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp/from:1950/mean:12/plot/esrl-co2/scale:0.01/offset:-3.25
Jim D who is using estimates to form a mechanistic point,does not understand the limitations (and rigor ) of probabilistic theory ( There being a significant distance in the practitioners of probability theory (Such as the russian school as pointed out by Taleb) and the practitioners of many climate studies.
Jim D is not standing on the shoulders of giants,but walking within the shadows of pygmies.
So your estimate of TCR trumps what several actual scientists in peer reviewed studies determined?
Sorry. You fail. Glaring mistakes you’ve made are:
1) CO2 contributes only about 60% of the total anthropogenic forcing with methane, nitrous oxide, tropospheric ozone, and halocarbons contributing the other 40%. ref:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas#Natural_and_anthropogenic_sources
2) CO2 forcing is not linear it declines logarithmically with increasing concentration so that first 50% of a doubling has twice the effect as the second 50%. This is why we use a constant temperature increase each time the concentration doubles. ref:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logarithm#/media/File:Binary_logarithm_plot_with_ticks.svg
3) your 3rd grade calculus was wrong the percentage increase from 280ppm to 400ppm is (400-280)/280*100 = 42%. Addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, and percentages are taught to 10 year olds. You can’t even get that right.
And I’ll need a reference to the Met Office saying we’ve clocked 1C of warming from anthropogenic CO2 emission. I think you made that up.
I just use observed temperature and observed CO2 to give the effective transient sensitivity based on nearly 60 years of data. You don’t like the way the lines parallel each other consistent with 2 C per doubling? That’s your own problem to explain it, not mine. Actual scientists put ECS at 3 C per doubling, consistent also with what history shows. No surprise there either. Once again – 100 ppm per degree as scaled here is over 2 C per doubling.
http://woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp/from:1950/mean:12/plot/esrl-co2/scale:0.01/offset:-3.25
Here is the 1 C story. This means sensitivities less than 2 C are already wrong.
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/climate-change-global-average-temperatures-break-through-1c-increase-on-pre-industrial-levels-for-a6727361.html
May 23: Hillary Clinton Refuses to Debate Bernie Sanders in California
http://usuncut.com/politics/hillary-declines-california-debate/
May 26: Donald Trump agrees to debate Bernie Sanders
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/05/26/trump-agrees-to-debate-sanders-nr.cnn/video/playlists/donald-trump/
6 hours ago: ‘Game On’: With Clinton Refusing, Sanders Agrees to Debate Trump in California
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/05/26/game-clinton-refusing-sanders-agrees-debate-trump-california
Yves Smith:
Sweet!
Hillary must be fuming. Trump is playing her like a cheap banjo.
ABC poll: Trump surge due to massive 36% millennial swing
Read more at http://redalertpolitics.com/2016/05/23/abc-poll-trump-surge-due-massive-36-millennial-swing/#WZaHd1vT5PcC4e92.99
Hard to believe, isn’t it? I love it so!
It’s not that they are socialists. They are anti-establishment.
This is being billed as Trump’s “first substantive energy policy speech.”
RSBN Live Stream: The Williston Basin Petroleum Conference in Bismarck, ND – May 26, 1:00 PM CDT.
http://www.donaldtrump2016online.com/2016/05/rsbn-live-stream-williston-basin.html
This is just the speech and doesn’t have the press conference beforehand:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/26/full_speech_donald_trump_at_north_dakota_petroleum_conference.html
The NY Tiimes is in love with the idea of endless resource wars in the Middle East, and can’t stand the idea of America becoming energy independent:
Donald Trump’s Energy Plan: More Fossil Fuels and Fewer Rules
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/us/politics/donald-trump-global-warming-energy-policy.html
This is probably the most important speech Trump has given thus far in his entire campaign.
He ties all the loose ends — energy, environment, over-regulation, jobs, economy, trade, crime, immigration, national security and the senseless, endless wars — all together into one cohesive package.
Trump Uses Energy Speech to Outline General Election Pitch
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-deliver-energy-policy-speech-north-dakota-39401469
Donald Trump’s Energy Plan: More Fossil Fuels and Fewer Rules NYT
Donald Trump Pledges to Rip Up Paris Climate Agreement in Energy Speech
Coal is done for. The only way Trump can keep it’s zombie corpse moving is by placing punitive restrictions on natural gas.
Here. Let me fix that for you:
“Renewables” have only just begun.
Donald Trump.
Watch how “get[ing] the bureaucracy out of the way of innovation” helps bring down the cost of rooftop solar. And even utility-grade solar for that matter. I bet the permitting process is just as bad for solar as for CCGT.
But coal’s day is done. Enabling competition will let gas CCGT trumple it into the ground. And with gas in place, solar and wind will be economical at penetration levels up to 10-15% by KWHrs/year. Each.
Coal is less competitive in the US because of insane environmentalism.
The rest of the world will be burning coal for a long time. And doing a much dirtier job of it.
PA,
Yep. If we look at the global scene, and not the United States where Obama, Clinton and their ilk have hammered coal production with their inane war on cheap and abundant energy, we get an entirely different picture.
Clinton has one goal in mind:
Political correctness, pandering or cowering… you be judge. Look at the cover of, The Economist
… and, compare it to the cartoon depicting the God of Arab-Muslims with bombs in his bonnet and the subsequent experiences of the Danish cartoonist Kurt Westergaard who has received death threats, been the target of attempted assassinations and was placed in 2010 on the Al-Qaeda hit list for insulting Islam.
Obummer preaches against nuclear weapons then tell Iran, in effect, it’s OK for them to get nukes.
Iran will have nukes whether we like it or not.
The way I see it is that we have, by agreement, tied our hands to delay them, perhaps until a more favorable regime emerges (somehow).
Without an agreement, we could take all sorts of measures (mostly clandestine) against Iran’s nuke program. But if we do it now, they’ll take us to World Court. And probably win.
We would have been better off to retain operational flexibility.
We in the US should ignore the World Court. It’s a step toward a world government. A cure worse than the disease.
Pat Buchanan: Left Wing Riots Will Help Trump, Like They Helped Nixon In 1968
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/26/pat_buchanan_left_wing_riots_will_help_trump_like_they_helped_nixon_in_1968.html
But according to Emily Tisch Sussman, a Democratic Party stratagest, the riots are all Trump’s fault:
Check this out. Trump gaining rapidly in nearly every single demographic while Hillary is sinking in almost every single one:
86% of Romney voters support Trump. What did we learn that doesn’t work Mr. Romney? Adapt. Get behind him. The Republicans should change in this short time frame. They can either try to survive with the old inflexible plan or evolve and remain suprisingly rellevant.
I wonder what it must be like to be a Democrat party leader right now. Or any of those who have pinned their hopes on Democrats, or on Hillary.
It can’t be pretty.
Hillary fighting a two front war, with the odd joke candidate actually making a showing (hey, the guy was there only to make it seem like there was a democrat primary), and with the Republican contender, who has wrapped up his nomination in a stunning victory and is now free to attack as he would in the general. Also, he is doing presidential things, like coming up with supreme court picks, revealing policy, and starting to hint at people who would play key roles in his administration.
With polls dropping, the solution seems to be to do nothing.
I think Clinton Inc. is doing something.
It’s trundled out that same old trusty artillery piece that’s worked so well in the past: accuse the opponent of being a racist, and having branded the enemy with the face of evil, remove substantive issues from the debate altogether.
The Racist Side of Bernie Sanders Supporters
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/26/the-racist-side-of-bernie-sanders-supporters.html
Clinton Chasing Votes With Fracking U-Turn
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Clinton-Chasing-Votes-With-Fracking-U-Turn.html
Leaked emails obtained by The Intercept reveal Hillary Clinton’s multiple stances on fracking….
At a debate with Bernie Sanders in New York in early April, Hillary Clinton said she doesn’t support fracking, unless certain conditions are met, such as acceptance from the community and full disclosure of the chemicals that will be used in the process of releasing oil and gas from shale rock.
Just four years ago, however, she was quick to point fingers at communities abroad who were fighting proposed fracking projects in Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria, as leaked emails obtained by The Intercept reveal. At that time, she promoted fracking – more specifically gas fracking – as a way for any country, especially those in Europe, to achieve energy independence (from Russia)….
Clinton is apparently ready to do anything to win…liberal votes, including making yet one more U-turn regarding her position on fracking….
This approach risks alienating more than just the energy industry, as Jude Clemente rightly noted in an article for Forbes that offers a comprehensive summary of all the benefits the U.S. has reaped from fracking (although it fails to mention the risks). He warned that she might lose Ohio and Pennsylvania with her new anti-fracking position, but Clinton won both states, which are heavily dependent on gas fracking. In Ohio, she got the upper hand before declaring her new anti-fracking stance, but her Pennsylvania victory came after the New York debate. Apparently, the strategy of changing positions to suit the moment and the target audience is working, distasteful as it may seem to observers.
Indeed, Clinton’s flip-flop to an anti-fracking stance may have worked against Sanders. But does Clinton Inc. really believe it will work against Trump?
To lay this delusion to rest, one only has to listen to Trump’s speech he gave in North Dakata yesterday.
Hillary Clinton’s Mistake On Fracking For Natural Gas
http://www.forbes.com/sites/judeclemente/2016/03/13/hillary-clintons-mistake-on-fracking-for-natural-gas/#69f40cba3e55
To summarize, Hillary is not only a hypocrite, she is “fracking” wrong about fracking..
THE BIG UNEASY
What’s roiling the liberal-arts campus?
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/05/30/the-new-activism-of-liberal-arts-colleges
What a farce college has become. And these people pass for “intellectuals?” Idi0ts!
Future presidents.
Trump puts fossil fuels at US energy core
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/c33b9d88-237f-11e6-9d4d-c11776a5124d.html#axzz49rRkiArb
This is awesome! From the article:
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Pittsburgh police are said to be on high alert after post about “roving support units” to deter anti-Trump protestors appears on Reddit
Fervent Donald Trump supporters are planning to make their presence known at the Republican presidential candidate’s town hall in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on Wednesday.
According to the Pittsburgh City Paper, a posting appeared on Reddit stating that “roving support units” are planned to patrol the perimeter of the building where Trump is scheduled to speak tonight, for the purpose of deterring protestors.
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http://www.thewrap.com/donald-trump-supporters-plan-to-carry-guns-at-town-hall-video/
Why aren’t the police “on high alert” because of the Trump protesters? Idi0ts.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/an-america-first-energy-planComplete text of Trump’s energy speech
Bad link. Try this instead:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-formal-policy-address-on-energy
And then I put in the wrong link too. Mibad. HERE is a working link to the energy plan:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/an-america-first-energy-plan
Wow. That was powerful and persuasive. Sounds like his energy policy is coming straight out of Rick Perry’s playbook. I wonder who Trump has writing his material these days?
Great tag line he’s got for Cr00ked Hillary to contrast with his own. If one of his dozen books isn’t “The Art of Jingoism” then he should commission it.
Trump: America First
Hillary: Donors First
Hard to believe, isn’t it? I love it so!
Think Trump dismisses climate change? Think again
He’s a land developer. They like building walls.
From the article:
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“I’m drunk on Trump,” proclaimed John Olson, a North Dakota unbound delegate and attorney representing oil, natural gas and coal companies.
“He gave us policy specifics. He talked about building Keystone and eliminating the over-regulation in the energy sector. By freeing up the industry from the massive regulation burden, it would allow businesses in America to grow which would then create jobs and put Americans back to work,” Olson said. “Trump also said he thinks wind [power] should make it on its own. And let’s get government out of the way so capital waiting on the sidelines can be invested. We can take care of our environment and produce energy at the same time.”
Gary Emineth, an unbound delegate and a former Republican National Committee chair for the state, praised Trump for promising to open up federal lands for energy exploration and development.
“Trump said this can be for oil or coal. He said we can then use that money to pay down our national debt,” Emineth said. “Trump said he knows the country’s reserves of oil and natural gas can make the U.S. independent from the volatile Middle East.”
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http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/27/energy-speech-leaves-north-dakotans-drunk-on-trump.html
Just to catch the spirit of the mood . . .
Unfortunate commentary inserted in the link (sigh). But we’re seeing this from both sides. Trump and Sanders. Mad as hell.
I’ll throw my RNO lot in with Trump. But I’m not unaware of the die rolls involved. Interesting times.
Unfortunately it still looks like the race will be between Trump and Hillary.
If Hillary is the Democrat nominee the choice is made for us, after all Trump doesn’t even have a broomstick.
From the article:
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A Navy sailor entered a guilty plea Friday in a classified information mishandling case that critics charge illustrates a double standard between the treatment of low-ranking government employees and top officials like former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and ex-CIA Director David Petraeus.
Prosecutors allege that Petty Officer First Class Kristian Saucier used a cellphone camera to take photos in the classified engine room of the nuclear submarine where he worked as a mechanic, the USS Alexandria, then destroyed a laptop, camera and memory card after learning he was under investigation.
…
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/kristian-saucier-investigation-hillary-clinton-223646
Survey: Troops want a Mattis presidential campaign
[…]
Why? Donald Trump is really starting to infuriate the Pentagon
How Gen. James Mattis could become the unlikeliest U.S. president in history
[…]
I believe Trump’s point is that we in the US pay most for NATO, just like the idi0tic UN and everything else “global.” Trump wants the cost shared more equitably and it’s about damn time!
THE BATTLE AGAINST ‘HATE SPEECH’ ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES GIVES RISE TO A GENERATION THAT HATES SPEECH
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/06/03/college-campus-free-speech-thought-police-463536.html
–snip–
“American college campuses are starting to resemble George Orwell’s Oceania with its Thought Police, or East Germany under the Stasi.”
–snip–
Wow. What drama queens. How can people write such dreck? So manipulative and exploitative. College campuses resemble East Germany under the Stasi?
Too funny.
Which part of “starting to resemble” did you not understand?
Or did you understand it perfectly and just wanted to construct another straw man?
I’d say you’re starting to resemble a troll but that would be gilding the lily. You ARE a troll.
Josh doesn’t rise to the level of troll. He’s stuck between clown and putz.
Enjoyed the debate. Thx Glenn.
Is Clinton the Real Housing Crash Villain?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/05/28/is_clinton_the_real_housing_crash_villain_130707.html
Donald Trump’s Virtual Political Reality
[…]
“From now on, […]” Funny, I thought that’s how it’s been since 1964.
Really! So they only realize this when Trump is up for President. And it totally escaped their attention when Obama ran … twice!! Amazing.
Hi, As a UK person, I find US politics fascinating. However, I have one query – how come Hilary Clinton is playing the feminist card when she’s hanging on her husband’s shirt-tails? Without him to propel her into the limelight she wouldn’t be where she is today. The old-old story of “the woman behind the man” very, very slightly updated.
She reminds me of those nasty women libbers (e.g. Glenda Jackson) who’d screw up their face in hatred while declaring “Maggie Thatcher isn’t a proper woman”. They didn’t want to let women be whatever the individual wanted. Oh no – Glenda and her ilk “knew” what women were like.
Personally, I’d never feel achievement if I’d relied on my husband getting me to the party in the 1st place – that’s nepotism, nothing to be proud of. And I’d always feel ashamed if I hadn’t done the difficult things. I despise both Hilary Clinton and actress Glenda (famous for taking her clothes off on screen).
I, a US citizen, agree with you. Without Bill, Hillary would be a nobody. Her own record in politics is less than stellar.
But you really answered your own question, she plays the feminist card because she needs every vote she can get.
Facebook related … from the article:
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If Americans started focusing on the impact of guest worker programs like H-1B, the results would be bad for both Democrats and Republicans, costing them both the trust of voters and millions in lobbying money.
Then along came Donald Trump, backed by immigration experts like Sen. Jeff Sessions. Suddenly, the H1-B issue became a focus. The public interest began lighting up the phones at SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Daily morning radio show, and the more the public learned, the angrier they became.
There’s a lot to be angry about. The H-1B program has caused massive layoffs of American workers and over a decade of wage stagnation. More infuriating is that the victims of H-1B are Americans who played by the rules, got an education in a growing field, and thought they’d have a career future.
There have been bipartisan reasons to keep the public in the dark about H-1B and keep them focused on low wage workers.
If you want to see what’s really going on with immigration policy, look at the cash.
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http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/05/28/zucked-silicon-valley-scared-death-trump-part-1/
Leo DiCaprio isn’t the only climate change hypocrite
http://nypost.com/2016/05/26/leo-di-caprio-isnt-the-only-climate-change-hypocrite/
This is a really interesting article
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/2016-johnson-lbj-campaign-1964-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-political-ads-daisy-213925
Interesting, but I don’t believe the KKK resonates now as it did then, when the US was in the throes of racial unrest. Sure, the Dimowits try to leverage race at every turn, but it doesn’t have the same impact of seeing cities burn continually in race riots. Additionally, the KKK isn’t a force anymore. It still had political support back then, but not now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_members_in_United_States_politics
Sid Myers and Lloyd Wright, LBJ’s ad men, are relics of a bygone age. I’m surprised they are still alive. Their thinking is flawed right from the start illustrating how they took down Goldwater mostly on a single issue – the nuclear arms race – and how Goldwater shrugged it off as “just another weapon”.
What these decrepit men didn’t have the mental acuity to grasp is that Trump has already staked out the position they took. Nuclear weapons were some scary sh*t in the 1960’s. People across the country were building bomb shelters in their basements. Kids were doing bomb drills in public schools.
The equivalent of the nuclear weapon scare today is illegal immigration and multi-national industries closing down US factories. That’s exactly what Trump is running on and how Cr00ked Hillary, and the political establishment in general on both sides, are shrugging it off.
Myers and Wright, if those antique brains of theirs were firing on all eight cylinders, would have picked up on that. Duh.
Also worth reading: Clinton Cash
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435864/clinton-cash-movie-hillary-clinton-unfit-for-presidency
Are you picking these up from realclearpolitics.com ? That’s been my go-to website for presidential politics since it was founded in 2000. I ignore it 3 out of every 4 years as a general rule. Maybe not quite so much in mid-term election years. I often wonder how it manages to stay afloat through non-election years. The format (look and feel) hasn’t changed since its founding.
Yes I check RCP once per day
Donald Trump’s energy policies would harm the nation and worsen global warming
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-trump-energy-environment-20160527-snap-story.html
The neocons are mounting their defense of perpetual war against Trump’s war on perpetual war.
It’s the same MO we get from the Alarmists: the sky is falling!
THE PRICE OF PERPETUAL WAR
http://warontherocks.com/2016/05/the-price-of-perpetual-war/
“It is the price of living in a world where, for the first time, terrorist groups and malevolent individuals can reach the United States and wreak havoc from virtually any corner of the world.”
Utter dreck. Dynamite was invented 150 years ago. Up until about 50 years ago anyone could buy it. Entry into the United States was ridiculously easy 50 years ago before electronic surveillance became cheap and easy.
No sir, the problem is that the United States since WWII has been increasingly interfering in the affairs of other sovereign nations exercising brute military and financial force to make other nations bend to its will. Some of them are fed up with it and have resorted to the only means of fighting back that they have – asymmetrical guerrilla warfare.
It’s time we stopped being the world police. It’s a thankless job and invites violence against American civilians both at home and abroad.
Charlie Rose is doing this long Biden love fest right now. I think the Dimowits are staging him to swoop in and save their bacon. Even if Billary’s email problem goes away, she still might have too much baggage to win.
Democrats are in a vast state of disarray. They don’t know whether to sh*t or wind their watch. Trump has their establishment running around like chickens with their heads cut off even as he’s got the republican establishment to close ranks around him. The guy is brilliant, he’s cleaning their clocks, and they refuse to portray him as the brilliant tactician that he is and instead try to paint him in a clown costume.
Hard to believe, isn’t it? I love it so!
MUST SEE
Too bad it was cut off early. It went on quite a bit longer on show. Must be a copyright consideration to cut it off early. I had posted about Scott Adams take on Trump on one of the older presidential threads. Adams has a fascinating worldview.
Scott Adams sees Trump as a master brander. He can brand things like a snake-oil salesman. He doesn’t have to have any substance, just persuasive uses of words. People can’t see that his snake oil is just that, because the success of this type of person is to get you to buy the product. Once the money has changed hands, he’s outta there. He doesn’t have to prove his product is any good. People are being duped and buying his snake oil for America.
“Branding” of people by Trump was suggested by Bill Maher. Scott Adams explicitly rejected the term saying “That’s wrong”. Adams said Trump is a master at the art of persuasion.
What product is it that you think Trump is selling? It’s not snake-oil. It isn’t Trump real estate. He’s selling himself and his potential skill at solving problems that middle class people of all creeds and colors care about. He’s selling himself as a political outsider who won’t be bought by campaign financiers or other moneyed interests.
People are sick of the performance of the Bush and Clinton political machines. The establishment wonks who care about the establishment and its benefactors who brung them to the dance. Nobody brought Trump to the dance. He’s beholden to no one. He doesn’t care who’s toes he steps on. He says, with pride and bluster, what many people think but don’t say.
I no longer believe it’s an act. What you see is what you get. It’s time to change-up the status quo in Washington. Trump is willing, eager, and capable of doing just that and loving every minute of it. It’s the ultimate challenge for him. He was destined for this moment in history. Reconcile yourself to it.
He has had to back off or soften so many of his wrong statements, and there are some that are clearly wrong that he won’t back off. There should no longer be any confidence that he is either true or earnest in anything he has said, let alone has any capability of carrying anything out. He’s not a conservative at heart. He’s faking it, and very badly. The Republicans backed themselves into an extremely conservative corner diminishing their base so much in the last 8 years that they could not even defeat a simple-minded populist. It really is two parties, and the sooner they realize it, the better for them.
Climate change is the most pressing issue of our time. So why isn’t it getting more play in the election?
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-climate-change-presidential-politics-20160526-snap-story.html
Climate change:boy who cried wolf
yawn
These people just don’t realize how goofy they look when they overplay their hands so much. They make evangelicals predicting a biblical apocalypse any day now look like reasonable people in comparison.
Feinstein on Clinton Secret Server: “Enough Is Enough,” All She Wanted Was A “Private Life”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/29/feinstein_on_clinton_server_all_she_wanted_was_a_private_life_without_someone_looking_over_her_shoulder.html
Yes, but the Clinton emails that have been either leaked or released so far show, for instance, how deeply she was involved in political intrigue and manipulaiton in the internal politics of Mexico.
This is information that the American people have the right to know.
Yup. As I’ve been saying all along the whole point of avoiding the use of gov’t archived email is to avoid open record requests. You can’t delete email unless you own the email server. It’s not a hassle at all using two email addresses one for personal business and one for public business. When I was in public office and had a .gov email address I simply set up the .gov email account to forward everything to Outlook and I set up Outlook to put the fowarded mail in a separate inbox and send replies to .gov email through the government server. Easy peasy. The only difficulty is when originating email instead of replying you have to pick which email address to use the private or public.
In this manner my private email remained private with me controlling the archive and all public email got archived on the .gov server in whatever manner they saw fit. Any open record requests the government got I simply let them figure out which emails were responsive to it so I didn’t waste my time responding to fishing expeditions. I will say that some members of the public abuse the open records laws thinking they can intimidate people and cause lots of work for staff. I got even with those people by publishing their names and the information they sought to the taxpayers in my district and pointing out how they were wasting tax money by taking up excessive staff time. The requests themselves are public information too. It’s a double edged sword.
Clinton Cash – the official trailer
I looked at the Clinton Foundation 2014 form 990. Anyone can get a free account at GuideStar and have a look at it. The first thing that’s of interest is this:
(All numbers rounded)
Contributions: $170 million
Grants: $5 million
Not a wrong ratio, an interesting one.
So they are doing something, and it looks like they will send people to help you.
Compensation: $32 million
They have offices, occupancy costs are: $5 million
Travel: $8 million
Conferences: $12 million
So it seems to help without giving much in the way of grants.
Balance sheet shows $148 million in real estate and equipment. Have to figure most of it’s real estate. I am thinking the Clintons are far too smart to smart to directly benefit from the Foundation. Causes they support will, but they’ll avoid getting entangled is something as foolish as getting money from the Foundation.
From the article:
…
California billionaire Tom Steyer stars in a new Spanish-language television commerical attacking presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.
The advertisement, which Steyer’s group NextGen Climate Action is airing statewide ahead of California’s June 7 primary on Univision, Telemundo, and Spanish-language websites, features video clips of Trump calling immigrants from Mexico “rapists” and calling for a deportation force to send home those in the country illegally.
…
http://ktla.com/2016/05/27/california-billionaire-tom-steyer-launches-spanish-language-ads-attacking-donald-trump/
Seems ill conceived. All Trump has to do is show a few examples of illegals convicted of rape, murder, drug dealing, etc. and he demonstrably becomes the guy in the white hat exposing what’s going on,. the guy addressing tough issues that the other side wants to sweep under the rug.
There’s no shortage of examples of illegals engaging in all kinds of criminal behaviors. Doesn’t matter if most of them don’t or not. One bad apple spoils the whole barrel and there’s no getting around the fact they’re ALL criminals by definition i.e. illegal alien. That’s not a winning strategy for democrats. Just the opposite. They shoot themselves in the foot over and over.
Crimes are committed by all kinds of people. Trump needs to tone down the diatribe against illegals. There are plenty of good reasons to control the border, sovereignty being the first and foremost.
That doesn’t play well in Peoria, Jim. We don’t need a fence we need to either enforce the immigration laws or change them. Right now they’re being ignored. It’s no wonder the southern border is porous there’s no penalty for crossing it illegally. We need to start doing a lot more police work at home and a lot less of it abroad.
Jim, I learned my lesson about second guessing Trump. When will you?
A Dialogue With a 22-Year-Old Donald Trump Supporter
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/a-dialogue-with-a-22-year-old-donald-trump-supporter/484232/
Police Declared Protests Outside Donald Trump’s San Diego Rally An Unlawful Assembly, But What Does That Mean?
http://www.bustle.com/articles/163694-police-declared-protests-outside-donald-trumps-san-diego-rally-an-unlawful-assembly-but-what-does-that
How Anti-White Rhetoric Is Fueling White Nationalism
http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/23/how-anti-white-rhetoric-is-fueling-white-nationalism/
Don Surber – “I see where Chuck Todd has finally figured out why Hillary Clinton sent official emails from a private serve: to dodge FOIA requests.”
Yup. More at link:
http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2016/05/dc-catches-on-about-crooked-clinton.html
Historias polémicas persiguen a Hillary Clinton durante su campaña política
http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2016/05/28/mundo/019n1mun
Clinton is getting blasted in Latin America………
Emails stored on Clinton’s “private” email servers show Secretary of State Clinton Disobeyed President Obama
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/01/19/secretary-state-clinton-disobeyed-president-obama.html
December 2010: Wikileaks leaks State Deprartment cable
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/132055-leaked-cable-reopens-honduras-debate
Hillary Clinton’s New Anti-Trump Ad Misses the Mark
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/hillary-clintons-new-anti-trump-ad-misses-the-mark-20160525#ixzz4A5HJEudc
After latest email revelations and endless dishonesty, time for Hillary Clinton to head for the hills
…
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/stasi-latest-email-disaster-time-clinton-drop-article-1.2653391
Emails Show Secretary Clinton Disobeyed Obama Policy And Continued Funding For Honduras Coup Regime
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/bill-conroy/2015/07/emails-show-secretary-clinton-disobeyed-obama-policy-and-continued-fund
Tiny Hands Trump looks better every day while Cr00ked Hillary looks worse every day.
Hard to believe, isn’t it? I love it so!
David,
I certainly don’t understand it.
Hillary took a wrecking ball to Honduras, literally destroying the place so her rich friends could make a few extra bucks.
Then, when children and young people fled the hell hole she had made — literally fleeing for their lives — she got on TV and said they must immediately be sent back. This report is from a Guatemalan newspaper:
Here’s a similar report in English:
The Obama administration did just what Clinton advised, with Joe Biden chiming in saying the same thing. All but a handful of the children were quickly sent back, almost to certain death. This was tantamount to a death sentence.
And furthermore, when the United States says jump, Mexico says “How high?” So when Clinton said Mexico had to stop the flow of immigrants crossing its southern border from Central America, Mexico immediately promulgated its Plan Frontera Sur, which went into effect in July 2014.
Although Plan Frontera Sur had the desired effect and substantally stemmed the flow of Central American immigrants reaching the United States, it has had a devastating effect on the lives of people fleeing the mayhem that Clinton herself created:
The outcry in Mexico was so fierce that the Mexican government softened its position and now allows minors from Central America to remain in Mexico:
Ice runs in Clinton’s veins. And then she has the audacity to blast Trump’s stance on immigration?
Trump has this ready to expose when needed. He A-B tested “Cr00ked Hillary” and “Heartless Hillary” at the NRA endorsement acceptance speech to gauge which is the more effective. He decided on the fly, but tentatively, from audience reaction that Cr00ked Hillary still played better in Peoria. Nevertheless that night and all across America people, including me asking my wife, which do you think fits better “Cr00ked Hillary” or “Heartless Hillary”. People have a tough time deciding this but it sets up a dichotomy between two evils. My wife decided on “Cr00ked” like most people but it was a tough call because she hates Hillary for leaving the Benghazi ambassadorial staff to be murdered. When and if Cr00ked Hillary starts wearing thin Trump has a known winner waiting in the wings to replace it. Clinton is so unelectable. Like Scott Adams said Trump brings a flame thrower to a stick fight and no one else has anything that can defend against it.
El Plan Frontera Sur has also had a grievous effect on women fleeing the violence. Women make up about 30% of the refugees:
http://enelcamino.periodistasdeapie.org.mx/historia/mujeres-marcadas-por-el-plan-frontera-sur/
The Email hairball begins unwinding in Latin America:
Hear Hillary Clinton Defend Her Role in Honduras Coup When Questioned by Juan González
http://www.democracynow.org/2016/4/13/hear_hillary_clinton_defend_her_role
Dana Frank Responds to Hillary Clinton’s Defense of Her Role in Honduras
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/dana_frank_responds_to_hillary_clintons_defense_20160414
Identity Politics Are Ripping Us Apart
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435567/identity-politics-race-ripping-us-apart
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/obamas-reckless-overseas-attack-trump-16366
Obama’s Reckless Overseas Attack on Trump
When looking for support for his foreign policy, President Barack Obama wants Republicans to line up behind him because politics should stop at the water’s edge. But when trying to elect a Democratic successor, Mr. Obama takes politics with him wherever he goes, including to this week’s G-7 Summit in Japan. Speaking at a press conference, he pontificated on the ongoing primary elections, including sharp jabs at Republican frontrunner Donald Trump. While he might think that his attacks on Trump’s “ignorance” and “cavalier attitude” will somehow help former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, they in fact diminish not only Mr. Obama and his office, but the country he has traveled overseas to represent.
–more at link
Quote from the article:
I think it’s a mistake to believe that Obama/Clinton, or their fellow establishment Republicans on the other side of the aisle, represent the American people.
Here, for example, is a recent photo taken in El Salvador of who the Republicrat establishment really works for.
On the right is Carlos Slim, the Mexican oligarch. He also has his own propaganda arm in the United States: he is the financial savior and principal stockholder of the NY Times.
In the center is the Canadian billionaire Frank Giustra, a transnaitonal mining magnate who has mining interests throughout the world.
And on the left is you know who.
The billionaires ponied up $100 million each for the Fundación Clinton Giustra Slim Enterprise Partnership.
Hillary Clinton’s Emails Now Might Finally Take Her Down
http://lawnewz.com/politics/hillary-clintons-emails-now-might-finally-take-her-down/
Let’s hope not. Cr00ked Hillary has just the right amount of damaged goods to lose in a landslide and give Tiny Hands Trump a mandate to clean up the establishment’s globalization mess. This is a unique opportunity to transform American politics into something that’s works for the people instead of around them.
The left’s obsession with identity politics causes a new injustice
http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2016/05/27/it-s-time-the-left-moved-beyond-identity-politics
The mystery of weak US productivity.
Economic output is the ultimate test of our ability to create wealth
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/315f8b88-2364-11e6-9d4d-c11776a5124d.html#axzz4A994vyBv
No mystery. US manufacturing, the backbone of middle class employment, was systematically destroyed under the globalization mantra. Environmental, energy, labor regulations, and free trade deals made by politicians bought and paid for by multi-national industrial billionaires destroyed the US middle class and made it dependent on gov’t largesse the amount and type also controlled by same wealthy elites. Trump is an ego maniac who wants to be revered by a hundred million middle class voters. What drives Trump is different. It’s ego not greed and he makes no bones about it. A blue collar billionaire. No poise, no charm. A bull in a China shop. He was born for this moment in time. It’s his destiny.
If the US is to remain competitive globally, they have to go where the cheap labor is. This was a rational business decision about how to survive under globalization. Better ideas would be welcome. Bring the jobs home or penalize overseas manufacturing: prices rise, the US loses its overseas market (imagine what happens to Apple if it manufactures in the US instead of China). Would they still compete with Samsung? How about automobiles, or other assembly-line systems. The US would be toast, and those jobs they brought home would be short-lived.
Jim D,
One little piece of factual information that the fans of globalization invariably omit from their narrative: The price of labor “where the cheap labor is” has also gotten a lot cheaper due to globalization.
In Mexico, for instance, the average manufacturing worker’s pay has lost 60% of its purchasing power since NAFTA was enacted:
http://jussemper.org/Resources/Labour%20Resources/WGC-AEM/Resources/WagegapsMexAEM.pdf
With globalization, the only winners are the transnational plutocrats and a handful of people in their inner circles.
I don’t know why you believe people should continue falling on their own swords for these gazillionaires.
Pulling your factories out of Mexico won’t solve that problem either. Globalization is the realization that some countries are better suited for manufacturing in just the same way as we realize the same in agricultural produce and the acquisition of raw materials. It is a globalized world. There is no withdrawing from it.
“It is a globalized world. There is no withdrawing from it.”
Sure there is. Just watch.
We agree on something. You’re sounding more capitalist than Trump. People with low skills don’t want to work for less. Except for maybe the Mexicans. Perhaps people stopped trying to be great themselves and now look for the government to be great instead. But that’s not Republican in my opinion.
Glenn Stehle:
Under globalization, people with less to offer have less to offer. Let’s make that everyone’s problem, but not so much the people with less to offer.
Ragnaar, sure free markets and capitalism. Let the chips fall where they may. Obviously industry should not be completely unrestrained, and there are regulations on how to treat workers, product safety and pollution control that I would also hope would be enforced as part of the deal.
“If the US is to remain competitive globally, they have to go where the cheap labor is.”
Competitive in what and what benefit does the US middle class get from this so-called competitiveness?
Watch Jimmy dodge the hard question now. LOL
Competitive on the world markets. How can the US middle class succeed? Take advantage of a better education system to lead in new industries (as they have). New industries are tech based or in local construction, service, trade and sales. If you think America needs to make all its own clothes and assemble electronics just to provide middle class jobs, you are living in a fantasy land. Americans won’t even take the agriculture and meatpacking jobs because they are too hard, so what would be their attitude to a mass-production sewing or electronics factory?
Jimmy D mentions Apple and what might happen if making phones in China becomes more expensive.
Why should I care what happens to Apple when Apple doesn’t care about me?
He asks would Apple be able to compete with Samsung? Inside the US I’m sure they could.
Jimmy mentions the auto industry.
Why should I care what happens to Toyota, Hyundai, or BMW, Jimmy? How many Ford trucks are exported to South Korea purchase from us?
The idea is we make what we consume, Jimmy. It’s not complicated. A closed loop. Globalization benefits multi-national corporations. How does it benefit the underemployed US middle class who aren’t stockholders or employees of those corporations?
So you don’t care about the price consequences of Apple moving factories here. They would tank on the world market and scale down, but you don’t care. The rest of the world gets cheap Samsungs and the US have to get them highly tariffed or on the black market. Same with TVs, computers, etc. Think it through. Do I have to defend the free market now? Countries do what they can do best, and the US has a place without making all its own electronics.
JIm D and Ragnar,
Both of you are proselytes of what Reinhold Niebuhr called the “middle-class creed.” Here’s how he explained it:
Glenn Stehle:
“…which reveal how insignificant are the factors of virtuous thrift and industry beside the factor of the disproportion in economic power in the creation of economic inequality…”
Successful capitalism pales when compared to people who have a lot of money. How these people have a lot of money is not known. Surely it can’t be capitalism. Those that have been modestly successful are tools of those that have a lot of money. The idea of granting others rights, such as property rights and the right to exchange one’s labor is a failed illusion benefiting those who are successful. People supporting the successful demonstrates that they should not. Inequality of situations is proof itself that rights should not be granted to others and force is justified in achieving equality. Sameness is our guiding principle. But not sameness with for instance, Mexicans. We in the U.S. are virtuous, unlike those who we not born here and don’t get the same sameness we are entitled to. This sameness must be worldwide, to the poorest of the poor. It is an illusion to be better off than poor Africans and fight amongst ourselves for another dollar an hour while they suffer an order of magnitude worse than our poor. Because our values our universal. Crossing borders and not confined to an arbitrary line on a map. Things that are not illusions can do that. As they apply here in this country, they apply everywhere. We in the U.S. sit upon a pile of stuff we did not virtuously earn. We were unequally rewarded and therefore will not play the, we were born here card, to gut our philosophical arguments. We will now sell off our earthly belongings and travel to the poorest place we can find, distribute our money to the unsame people and live as they do until the situation is corrected. Voting for people like Trump and fixating on others.
ragnaar
Are you smoking crack?
No. Glenn Stehle is quoting inequality of money or income. Just trying to see where that gets us. But this election is about something. Inequality and the Democrats were right along. Time to fight inequality with equality for under employed white men. Economic inequality. I was promised a rose garden. Where it it? China took it. Mexicans took it. Globalists took it. I was born here gosh darn it. Donald Trump will fix this.
Your verbiage still appears like that of someone smoking crack. Rapid fire gibberish.
ragnaar
You seem to have a problem with nationalism. It’s understandable the Kenyan in the white house doesn’t feel there’s anything special about the United States. What’s your excuse?
UK voters shift towards ‘Out’ as EU referendum nears
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-icm-idUKKCN0YM1UF
Nationalism Is Rising, Not Fascism
https://geopoliticalfutures.com/nationalism-is-rising-not-fascism/
It is hard to find an example of Nationalism without Fascism. Fascism is often expressed as nationalism, but as defined by an authoritarian leadership. Nationalism usually is inclusive of a certain part of their own society, but at the expense of minorities who are discriminated against. It doesn’t depend on birthrights, but traits (race and religion or party). It is fundamentally divisive by considering their traits superior and anything else inferior. Has Nationalism ever arisen in a bottom-up sense with no specific leader just the idea itself? Most often it is driven by a few elites who think they know what is right and what is wrong about classes of people either within their society or in other countries, and it only takes hold in authoritarian conditions, i.e. as Fascism.
Jim D,
Fabrique National Herstal
Mercedes
BMW
Airbus
Just about every Japanese car company
What do they have in common?
They all manufacture in the US.
US workers are still the most productive in the world. One of them is my nephew, who after commanding an airborne infantry company is now working for a German manufacturer in South Carolina.
(He was telling his dad and I recently that they have trouble finding qualified young people to hire. Most likely evidence of the fine job our colleges are doing developing the important skill sets. As in how to create safe spaces.)
However, they won’t sell well in China unless they keep some manufacturing there. Depends if you want an international market or not. Perhaps Trump doesn’t. We don’t know. Does he want to bring Buick and Ford back from China or just penalize them for being there? These are the questions for him. He probably hasn’t thought about it.
Scott Adams, Trump, and Climate Change
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/145160928141/climate-change-and-trump
–more at link
http://blog.dilbert.com/
Canada’s energy superpower status threatened as world shifts off fossil fuel, federal think-tank warns.
‘Significant disruptions’ forecast in 10 to 15 years as cost of renewables, energy storage plummet
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/calgary/canada-super-power-oil-decline-renewables-policy-horizons-1.3601400
Talk about what Franklin D. Roosevelt called “economic royalists”…..
WSJ Editor Bret Stephens: Trump Needs A Decisive Loss So “Republican Voters Learn Their Lesson”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/31/wsj_editor_bret_stephens_trump_need_decisive_loss_so_republican_voters_learn_their_lesson.html
Media Fires Back At Trump: “You Keep Calling Us Dishonest… I Disagree With That”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/31/media_fires_back_at_trump_you_keep_calling_us_dishonest_i_disagree_with_that.html
The media has the same problem that climate science does: no credibility and no legitimacy.
OK so our media has no credibility (and they haven’t since they gave Ford a pass for pardoning Nixon). Maybe our press has been lying about N. Korea all these years too. I’m so confused…
“Trump is ‘wise politician’ and ‘far-sighted presidential candidate’: DPRK Today”
http://www.nknews.org/2016/05/north-korean-editorial-supports-donald-trump/
The neocons and the Warmists have more in common than a mutal hatred of Donald Trump: they are both practitioners of the politics of fear.
These concern trolls hide their greed and quest for power behind a patina of altruism — “we only want to save you from [insert apocalyptic threat] before it’s too late,” they tell us. The reality is something quite different: it is the politics of fear writ large. The only difference between the neocons and the Warmists is their respective object of fear. With the neocons it is North Korea’s nukes; for the Warmists it is CAGW.
Doomsday, both the neocons and the Warmists warn us, can only be avoided by spending vast amounts of money, on armaments for the neocons and on renewables for the Warmists.
These expenditures, however, yield little economic benefit, and Donald Trump realizes that the United States can no longer afford them.
Trump has proposed dialogue with both North Korea and Russia, something which is of course anathema to the neocons and the military-financial-industrial complex.
This is a passage from the article you linked:
Trump and Pyongyang have expressed a willingness to dialogue. That obviously would not be a good move for the war profiteers, whose only interest is in promoting more expenditures for war and military buildup.
Retired Marine Al Baldasaro Tells “Liberal Media” To “Get Your Heads Out Of Your Butts And Focus On Real Issues”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/31/retired_marine_al_baldasaro_tells_liberal_media_to_get_your_heads_out_of_your_butts_and_focus_on_real_issues.html
@ragnaar
Here’s what this election is about. Questions?
Increase or decrease the money supply? Raise or lower interest rates?
Up to now looks like a smooth transition to a new normal. The past 30 years were probably just a anomaly and we were all just living beyond our means with debt. I’d like to know why no one has called for a general labor strike? That’s when I’ll know it’s serious. As long has “they” can keep us divided I expect more of the same.
But the pain is not shared equally.
It is labor that has taken the hit. Capital has done just fine.
No general labor strike – no problem. Where is it written that pain has to be shared equally? Perception is reality and despite all the yelling and name calling I haven’t seen anybody ready to put real skin in the game and walk off their jobs. They are too scared or too dumb to use their most powerful weapon. The middle and lower class deserve a declining living standard until they earn the respect (and fear) of the 1%.
And while labor is sucking hind teat, the return on capital has had quite a renaissance.
We haven’t seen anything like this since the pre-1970 days.
Judge orders GOP get more Clinton-related emails before conventions
http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/06/hillary-clinton-emails-repubican-national-committee-223793#ixzz4AQ9mu3JL
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This could get interesting, since it is the USAID that stands accused of being the United States’ vehicle to bring about soft coups in Latin America:
http://www.contrainfo.com/11783/usaid-el-golpe-suave-en-america-latina-primera-parte/
Labor Fears Partisan Defections Toward Donald Trump.
Union leaders mobilize to try to counteract the Republican’s appeal to the white working class
http://www.wsj.com/articles/labor-fears-partisan-defections-toward-donald-trump-1464825897
http://www.gallup.com/poll/191960/economy-remains-top-priority-next-president.aspx?g_source=Election%202016&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles
Regardless of who wins the election, what single issue or challenge are you most interested in having the next president address when he or she takes office next January?
Now I am going to read a list of some of the issues that will probably be discussed in this year’s presidential election campaign. As I read each one, please tell me how important the candidates’ positions on that issue will be in influencing your vote for president — extremely important, very important, somewhat important or not important.
Middle-Class Pain: Stagnant Pay Says It All
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/06/02/middle-class_pain_stagnant_pay_says_it_all.html
Obama and Clinton remind me of the country and western song:
The Other World Trio, still like to sing their old standard. Kerry is todays lead singer.
Kerry: ‘It would be an act of extraordinary danger to our country because of the path it would put us on both in terms of our global leadership on the issue as well as the actual policies we need to implement and it would in the end be an act of ignorance, of utter unbelievable contemptuous ignorance to get rid of something that the world has worked for since 1992 in Rio.’
Hurtin fer Certin
Oil and gas boom feeds greatest real wage growth in U.S., but will it last?
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/05/31/oil-and-gas-boom-feeds-greatest-real-wage-growth-in-u-s-but-will-it-last/
On average, real wages across the United States are stagnant:
Median household income fell, a lot, since 2000. I don’t know how that can be reconciled with an increase in the average wage.
David,
The labor participation rate is much lower, so there are fewer people on the average working per household.
Also, there are more self-employed and more part-time workers, which if I am not mistaken get counted as employed, but nevertheless make less on the average than the average worker working for a wage.
Economist ‘Cautiously Optimistic’ on Oil Prices, But Recovery Still Ahead http://www.rigzone.com/news/oil_gas/a/144841/Economist_Cautiously_Optimistic_on_Oil_Prices_But_Recovery_Still_Ahead?utm_source=DailyNewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=2016-06-01&utm_content=&utm_campaign=industry_headlines_1#sthash.DpaVC4d1.dpuf
America’s Shrinking Middle Class: A Close Look at Changes Within Metropolitan Areas.
The middle class lost ground in nearly nine-in-ten U.S. metropolitan areas examined
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2016/05/11/americas-shrinking-middle-class-a-close-look-at-changes-within-metropolitan-areas/
Milo Yiannopoulos: For Too Long Has The “Bogus Cult Of Social Justice” Policed Our Lives
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/02/milo_yiannopoulos_for_too_long_has_the_bogus_cult_of_social_justice_policed_our_lives.html
I love how they describe Yiannopoulos on the video:
Unbelievable!
‘The Young Turks’ Panel: 71% of Democrats Think An Indictment Shouldn’t Stop Hillary’s Campaign
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/02/the_young_turks_panel_71_of_democrats_think_an_indictment_shouldnt_stop_hillarys_campaign.html
I don’t think Cr00ked Hillary should drop out even she has to debate Tiny Hands Trump from behind bars. In fact I’d prefer it that way.
Speaking of Tiny Hands… Cr00ked Hillary’s speech in San Diego today threw everything *except* Trump’s tiny hands at him. A half-hour boring, ,uninspiring rant by Hilly-Billy that was so hypocritical and disjointed it was almost painful to watch. I guess she’s saving the size of his hands for later in the campaign after everyone gets burnt out on the things she mentioned today. They just don’t learn. Negative campaigning doesn’t work on Tiny Hands Trump they simply make it apparent how willing they are to get down to Trump’s level like they’re right at home there. The problem is that Trump is GOOD at mud wrestling and his detractors suck at it. As far as military experience and leadership I hate to break it to Cr00ked Hillary and draft dodging Slick Willy but Trump went to military school, was the leader of his class, excelled at a number of team sports including basketball and soccer, and got straight A’s. Just because somebody talks like a construction worker doesn’t mean they are a construction worker. There’s a lot more to Trump than meets the eye.
Oblahma’s speech yesterday was ridiculous. He talked about how much better off the nation is now than 8 years ago but somehow missed the fact that median household income went down 10% on his long watch. And he didn’t bow to audience first. How come the weak-kneed SOB bows to everyone but his own people? Oh wait, I forgot. He did indeed bow to Muslim leaders in Kenya. So I guess it’s just Americans that he doesn’t respect because, after all, they’re not realy Barry Soetoro’s people.
Classic line that James Carvel gave to Bill Clinton in 1992 to use against George Bush 41. It applies today only the charge is against Cr00ked Billary: “It’s the economy, stupid.”
Trump risks US nuclear war, claims Clinton Financial Times.
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/06/links-6316.html
I doubt that speech helped Clinton any. It was a confused smorgasbord of hyperbolic accusations. A desperate attempt to throw as much stuff as possible against the wall to see if anything will stick. The Democrats are in a vast state of disarray. Someone remind Cr00ked Hillary – it’s the economy, stupid.
Yep.
The neocon warmonger and war profiteering fan extraordiaire charges that Trump “risks” getting us into a war?
The rub is that with Trump it’s a “risk,” but with Clinton it’s a sure thing.
Clinton’s Foreign Policy Speech Marred by Inherent Contradictions.
“Hillary Clinton’s history of supporting interventionism puts her in a weird place to be portraying her opponent as trigger happy.”
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/02/clintons-foreign-policy-speech-marred-inherent-contradictions
Hillary is indeed a neocon, but a flawed one. If I were to name the ultimate neocon I would choose Dick Cheney. Here was a man who not only co-authored the original manifesto of the American neocon he was also the one of the primary architects of US foreign policy.
Who do you think he’s supporting?
jacksmith4tx,
You employ the same sort of reasoning as Clinton does, which is to elevate speculation about what Trump might do, based on the actions of someone who isn’t even the candidate, to the same level of certainty as what Clinton did do.
Trump said it best:
Clinton is without a master of spin, but Trump cuts through her rhetorical flourishes like a hot knife cutting through margarine.
I did not speculate on what Trump would do. I just pointed out the the ultimate neocon, Dick Cheney, was a Trump supporter. He didn’t have to publicly announce his endorsement of Trump but he did, Words matter.
I think Trump mis-remembers the past a lot. Audio and video recordings paint a different picture.
jacksmith4tx said:
Well that’s certainly what the left keeps telling us in its drive to promulgate speech crimes.
They want to trash the precepts upon which our constitutions is based, expressed here by Thomas Jefferson:
And if we look at Clinton’s “overt acts,” as opposed to what she says, what we see in her actions is a consistent record of war mongering and extreme hawkishness.
And, whether you choose to believe it or not, there are still people out here who believe deeds speak louder than words.
Susan Sarandon very articulately summed it up, in less than two minutes, in this video:
Protesters take to streets after Trump rally in San Jose
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/02/politics/donald-trump-california-protesters/index.html
Funny how the MSM, in its sweeping campaign of disinformation, has this uncanny way of not calling violence against Trump supporters by its name: “violence.”
http://gawker.com/protestors-and-supporters-brawl-outside-donald-trump-ra-1780263011
And way to go, burning the American flag and everything it’s a symbol of:
Susan Sarandon: Hillary Clinton Is “More Dangerous” Than Donald Trump; “We’ll Be In Iran In Two Seconds”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/02/susan_sarandon_hillary_clinton_is_more_dangerous_than_donald_trump_well_be_in_iran_in_two_seconds.html
Victoria DeFrancesco Soto: Latinos Will Vote For Trump Because His “Message At Its Core Is Aspirational”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/03/victoria_defrancesco_soto_donald_trumps_message_at_its_core_is_aspirational.html
Of course they don’t get too disappointed. They’re too busy telling us how good we’ve got it due to their outstanding performance.
This is the track record that Clinton is running on. We’ll see how well that resonates with the voters.
Record 94,708,000 Americans Not in Labor Force; Participation Rate Drops in May
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/record-94708000-americans-not-labor-force-participation-rate-drops
A record 94,708,000 Americans were not in the labor force in May — 664,000 more than in April — and the labor force participation rate dropped two-tenths of a point to 62.6 percent, near its 38-year low, the Labor Department’s Bureau of Labor Statistics reported on Friday.
When President Obama took office in January 2009, 80,529,000 Americans were not participating in the labor force; since then, 14,179,000 Americans have left the workforce — some of them retiring and some just quitting because they can’t find work.
“By almost every economic measure, America is better off than when I came here at the beginning of my presidency,” President Obama told the people of Elkhart, Indiana three days ago. “We cut unemployment in half, years before a lot of economists thought we would.”
“Make California Mexico again” chanted in San Jose at #Trump rally
Plus: Several other videos showing the violence as it was being committed against Trump supporters
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/02/trump_supporter_left_bleeding_after_being_attacked_by_mob_in_san_jose.html
That’s a really strange desire, considering that the majority of Mexicans, by almost a 2-to-1 margin, want to make Mexico a part of the United States.
Mexicans aren’t stupid. They know a good thing when they see it.
The 65% of Americans that want Mexicans deported just went up!
Scott Adams thinks so too:
‘Dilbert’ Creator Scott Adams: Anti-Trump Protestors “Making A Deeply Persuasive Argument For Deportation”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/03/dilbert_creator_scott_adams_anti-trump_protestors_making_a_deeply_persuasive_argument_for_deportation.html
Yup. Yoda says:
In the foot shooting themselves they are.
The libtards, their MSM lackeys, and Cr00ked Hillary herself are blaming Trump for the violence when it’s her f*cking supporters that are violent. What a twisted c*nt. She belongs in jail not the White House.
Hard to believe, isn’t it? I love it so!
They seem to be so dumb you’d think they are purposely trying to throw the election
Trump is divisive. There are some areas of the country where Trump attire is seen as something like KKK attire. It’s based on the type of language they are seen cheering.
A housecleaning of some areas of the country are in order. I’m not interested in starting any race wars but I’ll interested in finishing one from the winning side. I won’t be coerced by the threat of violent reprisals on the streets of America. I’ll lock and load in preparation for it instead.
Trump is blaming America’s problems on minorities. This blame is unfounded. The banks did much worse regarding what happened in 2008. He just uses a convenient scapegoat that gets him a certain type of voter, and his followers believe him because he says it loudly and often, but not backed up by facts. As we see with the recent Swiss vote (against a guaranteed income), advanced countries are seeing middle-class jobs declining because of automation, not immigrants. Middle-class unemployment is a general problem of the modern world. Trump is fighting the wrong war if he wants to improve middle-class jobs, and that war just ends up alienating people.
P.S. Even the KKK has a right to express themselves without being subjected to physical violence against them in response. Violence begets violence. Those starting it should be wary of who has numerical superiority and firepower. Which side is widely spread through difficult to attack suburbs and which side is a sitting duck in dense urban areas. How easy it would be to cut off utilities such as water and power with a few well placed attacks on water lines and electrical substations. How long could they last without those? Surrender would take place within days.
The KKK, if they espouse violence, also deserve violence from those they want to fight. It’s not a good thing for any side to put hate on minorities, because there are subsets of both sides who will do something about it. It’s a given.
Jim
Trump is divisive for those that want the status queue maintained. When you look at the details of Trump’s actual comments/ positions- they are good points to discuss.
Does it make sense to have better screening of Muslims wishing to enter the US? Imo- yes based on the religious training that is being given to believers of that religion in many countries around the world.
Does it make sense to protect the US boarders and prevent illegal immigration? – Yes
Does the US taxpayer pay to much for the world’s security? Yes
Better screening is different from banning all of the and calling for resident Muslims to register, which follows from his position of not trusting any of them. Also does mass deportation make more sense than having a work program that allows the use of migrant workers? In every case where he makes a stand it is at the extreme end. On world security, yes, Obama has drawn back and avoided sending troops to Libya and Syria, which would have been new commitments and terrorist magnets. From losing 1000 troops per year from the dual quagmires of the Bush administration, we are down to a few a month in a less invasive policy that Americans probably prefer.
Jim D.
You acknowledge that better screening makes sense, and that is what Trump advocated not what you wrote it might lead to.
Trump has stated he is open to having some illegal immigrants register and stay. Can a country exist long term if they do not control their boarders?
On international affairs- Obama and Hillary caused the creation of ISIS by they policies in Iraq. They also created the problems in Libya by overthrowing the government without a transition plan to a new stable government.
Sorry, you positions make little sense
Obama has said they need to screen. This is the policy already. If you have a specific improvement, go for it. It’s just words to make people think Trump has an idea of something that is not being done already. Yes, they have borders. Most people come in with visas, then what? A wall as a solution is just a false sense of security.
Bush was wrong as even Republicans are saying now. We needed to not continue the mistake. Iraq is not the US’s problem. Their elections, touted by Bush, allowed an Iran-leaning government and that was that for that. No point in staying and the Iraqi government didn’t want it anyway. Blame the Iraqi government for what happened subsequently. They failed to unite their country and left it open to radicals. It is an internal Muslim issue, and the US role is not obvious when there are a bunch of countries fighting proxy wars in the region now. It is very hard to justify putting US lives at risk in that situation. On Libya, Trump was for a Libyan intervention before he was against it, as with all his foreign policies.
Did a search on “illegal immigrant attacked by white man” and got butkus.
The entire first page was links to attacks by illegal immigrants on white men including machete attacks in Chicago. I didn’t even know they let you carry machetes on the El Train (the Chicago equivalent of a subway).
Before Chicago had so many illegal immigrant they probably called it “the train” instead of “El train”.
Anyway, apparently illegal immigrants like attacking white men.
Illegal immigrants have a lower crime rate than American citizens. They don’t want to be deported.
Jim, I’ve seen that claim before but they had adjusted for educational level. The average educational level in Mexico is 7.2 years. How many Americans do you know of that dropped out of school before finishing the 8th grade? Were they well behaved kids?
You can look at other sources (I just have), and it is factually incorrect to say that they have a higher crime rate. That kind of talk will continue to lose Trump the immigrant vote, so it is fine from that perspective. He did not get the Republican memo about being better to Hispanics after the last election. His base couldn’t care less about Hispanics and he knows it.
Jim D | June 5, 2016 at 7:32 pm |
You can look at other sources (I just have), and it is factually incorrect to say that they have a higher crime rate.
http://cis.org/ImmigrantCrime
It isn’t factually incorrect to say they have a higher crime rate.
Older studies produced a low crime rate.
New studies have a higher crime rate.
The low studies use inaccurate census data or self-identification.
What is pointed out in these study wars is the trend toward advocacy by science. You start with a viewpoint and do enough incorrect things to get data to support your viewpoint. Perhaps we should not fund studies that guess and start identifying incarcerated illegal immigrants correctly.
Statistics like: “Newer Census data from 2007 show a 146 percent increase in immigrant incarceration 2000 to 2007” show that something funny is going on. Perhaps Mexico ran out of good illegal immigrants and is exporting bad ones.
From 1998 to 2007, 816,000 criminal aliens were removed from the United States because of a criminal charge or conviction.
That would eliminate a lot of recidivism. Given the high rate of recidivism this export program is more sensible than the “catch and release” system for US citizens. Perhaps we should export US felons.
It is sort of like climate change – the data is all over the map and it shouldn’t be.
OK, so we can put you in the “don’t like Mexicans” column. Is that what you were aiming at conveying?
Jim D: “Trump is divisive.”
And Hitlery isn’t?
GO TRUMP 2016!
Jim D is past the point of wearing blinders. He’s at eyes closed, ears plugged, going nah, nah, nah …
@Jim D
I11egal immigrants are crimina1s by definition, dipsh1t. 100% of them.
From the article:
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The secret project is causing deep concern inside of Clinton’s campaign, sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.
Specific details of the agent’s confessional are being held under tight embargo.
“What I saw in the 1990s sickend me,” Byrne explains. “I want you to hear my story.”
MORE
‘CHARACTER’ is set for release June 28. [It ranked #60,436 on AMAZON’s bestsellers list late Saturday.]
Developing…
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http://drudgereport.com/flashss.html
Well, this is interesting.
I’m surprised he wrote this book. He must think Trump is going to win.
You really have to hate Hillary to cross her. If Hillary became president he would lose his pension and would avoid prison only with a lot of luck and help.
Hillary is the gold standard for vindictive.
http://www.amazon.com/Crisis-Character-Discloses-Firsthand-Experience/dp/1455568872/ref=zg_bs_tab_pd_bsnr_1
A crisis in character for the Clintons would be that they decided to try good character!
jim2 | June 5, 2016 at 11:12 am
dropped into moderation
jejeje
Like they say here in Mexico, it looks like Clinton is a cartucho quemado.
I favor a negative income tax. It is a form of welfare, but it preserves the incentive to make more money. There are some variations, but the one I like is anyone without a job will get, for example, $25,000 per year. Two people on this salary can live together and make ends meet.
If a recipient gets a job, the government amount is cut back, but the sum of job and welfare will be more than welfare alone, enough more to be an incentive.
The traditional business-provides-jobs model will cease to work as automation and robots encroach more and more on jobs for humans. The negative income tax is easy to administer, meaning the size of government can be cut.
Maybe you can list things you fear under a Clinton administration. I’ll give you a start
1. Raised minimum wage
2. More people on affordable healthcare insurance
3. Mandated maternity leave (joining the rest of the civilized world)
…
Teenagers and immigrants should fear Billary’s and Sanders’ socialistic regulations. All the things you list will lead to more like these …
From the article:
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Wendy’s Plans To Automate 6,000 Restaurants With Self-Service Ordering Kiosks
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https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/05/13/0052202/wendys-plans-to-automate-6000-restaurants-with-self-service-ordering-kiosks
From the article:
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A new report from PwC finds that drones could replace $127 billion worth of human labor and services across several industries.
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https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/05/12/0431256/drones-could-replace-127-billion-worth-of-human-labor
From the article:
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For many California business groups, the state’s decision to gradually raise its minimum wage to $15 by 2022 is a terrible thing. But for its technology industry, it may be a plus. Higher wages, says the California Restaurant Association, will force businesses to face “undesirable” options, including cutting staff, raising prices and adopting automation.
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https://politics.slashdot.org/story/16/03/31/1549244/californias-15-an-hour-minimum-wage-may-spur-automation
A full time job needs to get a person above the poverty level, otherwise everyone pays them welfare to make up the difference. Walmart employees are government subsidized by billions because of how low their wages are, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. This shows up as a deficit.
A new report from PwC finds that drones could replace $127 billion worth of human labor and services across several industries.
Bad idea. I’ve seen government bureaucrats in action, using them “replace $127 billion worth of human labor and services across several industries” wouldn’t work unless the people they replaced weren’t doing anything either..
It’s business. If robots can do it at lower cost, they get rid of the people. They do it for profits, not charity. The traditional middle class loses out in the modern world. You need education to prepare people for the new jobs and not try to recreate these throwback factories. Trump’s view of manufacturing is outdated.
JIMD
Here in the UK a new living wage is being introduced next year. I endorse it as many companies, especially in retail and hospitality, pay low wages currently which then means the employee has to claim govt benefits to top their wages up.
in other words the co is being subsidised by taxpayers. this means some big firms often make large profits at tax payers expense. However it can have a detrimental impact on small not very profitable firms, so the wages need to be set at a realistic level.
Do you not have maternity pay over there? Its a good idea if not taken too far
tonyb
Paid maternity leave is not federally mandated, so it is up to the employers, and most probably do have something, but some don’t because it is not in the law. Unpaid leave is the only thing mandated. The US and Oman are apparently the only two countries left without paid maternity leave.
Reposting in the right thread:
I favor a negative income tax. It is a form of welfare, but it preserves the incentive to make more money. There are some variations, but the one I like is anyone without a job will get, for example, $25,000 per year. Two people on this salary can live together and make ends meet.
If a recipient gets a job, the government amount is cut back, but the sum of job and welfare will be more than welfare alone, enough more to be an incentive.
The traditional business-provides-jobs model will cease to work as automation and robots encroach more and more on jobs for humans. The negative income tax is easy to administer, meaning the size of government can be cut.
This is what the Swiss just voted down two to one against this weekend. Probably too costly to implement. Their proposed living wage worked out to be about $15/hr. I am more in favor of it being up to the employers to pay a living wage than the government, but in the case of unemployment it is the government.
I predict automation will take so many jobs that a negative income tax or something like it will become necessary. That or revolt.
It’s a tough one. Retirement is moving later, if anything, because of social security budgets, and that doesn’t help employment either. What would help is a fair enough wage that only one worker is needed per family, like the old days.
The “old days” were brought to us by WWII, wherein we smashed Germany’s and Japan’s industrial capacity (and some other countries were smashed). The US was one of the few intact industrial powers. Don’t see how we can pull that off again.
Also, the US balance of trade is negative which is not sustainable long-term because they rely on borrowing. Luckily the world needs the US as a consumer nation, so they invest for their own good. It is tough figuring out how the US money can just go around among service industries and not come from producing anything net.
Jim D | June 5, 2016 at 7:03 pm |
It’s business. If robots can do it at lower cost, they get rid of the people. They do it for profits, not charity.
In related news, there is a rumor that Hillary replaced some of her flying monkeys with drones.
Who is to blame for the violence at Trump rallies?
• Hillary Clinton says:
• San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo, a Democrat, says:
• Barak Obama says:
The neocon warmonger and NY Times columnist, David Brooks, says:
Who is to blame for the violence at Trump rallies?
• Newt Gingrich:
Another VIDEO showing violence being committed against Trump supporters:
and
How is it that the people outside were outnumbering the Trump supporters? Something went wrong with those people ending up among the demonstrators.
They should have known better than to expect to peacefully gone home. You can’t expect the cops to do their job. You can’t expect the protesters to act civilized. It’s sort of like that girl with the short skirt, isn’t that right, Jim? Just getting what they asked for?
In at least a couple of cases, it looked like they were provoking the protesters, so you may be right.
Jim, you are blaming the victim.
Not if they were provoking it beyond just T-shirts being worn. Do you know for sure they weren’t?
Jim, why don’t you try being a little more specific. What exactly do you think they were doing that justified mobs of people attacking them?
Trump supporters aren’t the brightest
…bulbs. They could easily look at brown people in a funny way, and that will be all it takes for some, together with the apparel, or build-he-wall phrases. Not saying it is right to respond, but you have a tense situation there.
Jim, despite all the derogatory comments I have heard about old white men, and a lot of those amusingly enough from old white men, I have never felt the urge to sucker punch or toss bottles at those people or their supporters. Maybe you should try again. Or better yet just stop trying since anyone with any normal understanding of social norms would understand you are on the wrong side of this argument.
I am not defending either side. It was a tense situation. Those Trump people can be obnoxious too. Provocation is a real possibility with them, especially after coming out from listening to Trump’s stump speech for however long that was. They would be fired up. Who would blame them or even be surprised if they acted up. You seem to have discounted that possibility.
No doubt the press has been hiding the evil doings of the Trump supporters from us. The press are all Trump supporters as is well known.
I wouldn’t be saying this if I didn’t see some provoking going on. Fox edited that out, but CNN showed it.
I’m not from Missouri but I drove through there once. Show me.
It was in the more raw video on the day it happened and the CNN commentator made mention of it at the time. I don’t have that. Go ahead and don’t believe it. It doesn’t fit your view of brown people just starting things for no reason, and I understand that.
stevereincarnated,
That’s a pretty low blow, you know!
Asking a Warmist to substantiate a weasel worded evasive assertion is like asking a hairy nosed wombat to play a trombone concerto – with feeling! Fat chance!
I’ve briefly passed through the Show Me State as well.
Good luck!
Cheers.
Jim, so I take it no video is forthcoming. I’m just going to assume you hate America and free speech and freedom of assembly and numerous other rights which so many Americans fought and died to preserve for us but which you think only pertains to those people who agree with you. Well, that and you hate white people. Making underhanded smears is so much fun. No wonder you like to do it!
You have seen disproportionate retaliation before. All it takes is a finger or a well-worded sign to draw the ire. Don’t act surprised that it happens on the other side too.
This is one. There may be others. It wasn’t hard to find.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Woman-Egged-at-Donald-Trump-Protest-in-San-Jose-Taunted-Protesters-Reporter-381764701.html
Unsupported speculation along with a few accusations. Nice, Jim. Now tell me why anyone that is sane would listen to anything you have to say at this point?
Yeah, I saw that one, Jim. Some woman didn’t immediately cower to those whose ideals you support so she got what was coming to her. Thank goodness her skirt wasn’t short, isn’t that right victim blamer?
So when you denied anyone was provoking, that was despite seeing this, or is this news to you?
I’ve seen the video before. I don’t see the taunting unless not cowering is taunting. I see a lone woman surrounded by an angry crowd and I see you taking the side of the angry crowd attacking the lone woman. I can’t imagine myself taking the same point of view if the roles were reversed and it was an angry crowd of Trump supporters attacking a lone woman but hey, you are what you are.
You can read around it. There was flipping off and racist stuff going on prior to that. I am not saying she deserved getting clocked with all those eggs, but it wasn’t random, and she made some bad decisions.
Jim, maybe she should have run and maybe she should have cowered, but this is America and she shouldn’t have to. And the scum holding the doors shut on her so she couldn’t get away from that crowd should be charged with reckless endangerment.
Yes, the hotel staff. They must be Hispanic or something.
Jim, maybe. Does it matter? I thought actions mattered not national origin. You are the ultimate racist. Nothing matters as long as you are the right color. If that was a Hispanic woman surrounded by an angry mob I would still be on her side but I bet you wouldn’t still be on the side of the crowd.
That is a very odd way to interpret what I have been saying. I just said some provocation probably took place, and you are having none of it as even a possibility. Remember these are Trump supporters we are talking about. They cheer and jeer the darnedest things. Don’t just give them a pass.
stevenreincarnated: “Jim, maybe. Does it matter? I thought actions mattered not national origin. You are the ultimate racist.”
Ah, but only where white men are concerned, naturally. And not only racist, but ageist too.
And as for this…“Trump supporters aren’t the brightest…bulbs.”
A typical arrogant little “Liberal”, Fascist to the core, basically.
Joke is, he probably has the highest opinion of himself of any poster on these blogs!
Jim, you have been insinuating, actually rather blatantly, that anyone that disagrees with you is racist. I don’t like it and if you don’t like it may I suggest you stop? You seem to be much more color coded than anyone else here. As far as provocation, I don’t give the Trump supporters a pass for the attacks they have made. Have you been making the argument that they were provoked? There are ways of behavior that are acceptable and ways that aren’t. It doesn’t matter what side of the argument the person is on.
No, certain assumptions make people look racist, but maybe that is just their blind spot. All I said at the beginning, based on what I saw of the initial videos, was that there was some provocation, and you took that as blaming the victim.
“You can read around it. There was flipping off and racist stuff going on prior to that. I am not saying she deserved getting clocked with all those eggs, but it wasn’t random, and she made some bad decisions.”
That is absolutely friggin’ classic.
You don’t go around taunting people when you are outnumbered. She may have had the police by her side and felt safe doing it, but that seems to have been a misjudgment on her part because eggs don’t respect police lines.
JimD, “You don’t go around taunting people when you are outnumbered.”
Never been to a college football game huh? Once the paid protesters ran out of eggs they started using bottles. I believe a number of these protesters were la raza which Soros funds to some degree. There are even rumors that the local police were la raza sympathizers.
The original South West La Raza are an interesting bunch. The Ford Foundation financed them until Chevez told Ford about them and some where along the line they picked up some extreme left finances.
They should be arrested for using bottles. But, like I said, a major misjudgment. She shouldn’t have trusted the police while racially taunting Hispanics, especially if they also look Hispanic. What was she thinking?
Jim D,
I’m not sure, but you seem to be saying that lawlessness in the form of a mob is superior to the right of free speech, and the maintenance of law and order.
Implying that practicality or commonsense dictates that one should kow-tow to a mob, leads to the practical approach that a threatened individual has a perfect right to retaliate by using lethal force to reduce the mob to impotence.
I support unabridged free speech, and also the rule of law. Individuals may be unhappy with both from time to time, of course. Tough, even if it’s me!
Mindless mobs seem to be opposed to both freedom of speech, and compliance with the law (even when it appears to be an ass).
I assume, possibly incorrectly, that you would support free speech, and oppose lawlessness. Or would you support the mob?
Cheers.
Yes, free speech is fine. Taunting is a version of free speech. Some people might not respect it personally and get back at you on it, but you take that risk. There’s free speech and there’s being wise to the situation.
“She shouldn’t have trusted the police while racially taunting Hispanics.”
The police or just the non-white Hispanic police? I assume that she should probably not imbibe as well because she would just be asking for it :)
I suspect some imbibing had taken place. Her behavior is hard to explain otherwise.
Jim D,
You wrote –
“Some people might not respect it personally and get back at you on it, but you take that risk.”
Do you agree that I might not respect the rights of the mob, and get back at them? Or do you only support the mindless mob?
Does the taunter, exercising a perfectly legal right, then have the right to self protection if attacked by a mob behaving in an unlawful fashion? I believe so. Bullies tend to learn a very practical lesson if they suddenly realise their prey aren’t as powerless as they assumed.
You appear to support the bullies, hiding behind the cloak of practicality. Most bullies are also cowards. I don’t find it surprising that a Warmist might support bullying, and blame the victim. Cowards as well?
Warmist Weasel Words in action!
Cheers.
Sure you go ahead and taunt a mob, and you feel at least after you get battered you were exercising your rights, and it was worth it. Taunting worth battering? That’s your calculation to make. The mob don’t think about lofty things like free speech. They listen to what you are saying and react accordingly. That’s the real world, and your calculation has to take that into account.
Jim, you come across as a racist. Are you a racist, Jim? Did you miss my earlier video? Go look at it. You are behaving just like that news reporter.
Read my replies. I might have asked you to check if you were being racist, but that is as close as it got. All I mentioned was about possibly some white people provoking anger. It’s not good to provoke anger, especially of the racist kind and directly to a mob who are not under control. Not a good idea at all.
Jim D,
Sorry, but you seem to be in deny, divert, confuse mode.
If a mob attacks me, do you support me in removing the mob’s power to do me harm? If I use lethal force against the mob, aren’t they at fault? Surely it would be more practical for the mob to let me taunt them, rather than run the risk of dying.
Once you support lawlessness for any reason, you find there is always someone with a bigger stone, spear or gun. An even more fanatical supporter of lawlessness, if you are unlucky.
I respectfully suggest that if you are part of a mob being taunted by myself you might care to think very carefully before picking on me. The choice is yours.
Cheers.
I am not supporting lawlessness. I am saying realistically some people are lawless, it is just good sense to know who they are and not to provoke them deliberately, or if you do, be prepared for the consequences. You may never want to do that calculation before provoking someone, and that’s fine too. It’s your life.
I suppose you think Zeenat Rafique deserved to be burned to death by her mother too. She should have known better than to visit, after eloping with somebody from a different tribe.
Ex-AG Gonzales: Trump has a right to question judge’s fairness
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/04/politics/alberto-gonzales-donald-trump-judge-curiel/index.html
The VIDEO at the top of the article is of Ana Navarro, who gives the Democratic response.
Ana Navarro is a rather upset Republican, not a Democrat.
Republican, Democrat, Neocon, Neoliberal, Republicrat.
All those establishment mouthpieces are the same, regardless of what they may call themselves.
The law firm that Judge Gonzalo Curiel appointed to represent plaintiffs in lawsuit against Trump University paid the Clintons $675,000 for three speeches
http://www.wnd.com/2016/06/attorneys-suing-trump-u-paid-675000-to-clintons-for-speeches/
Imagine the public outrage if there were a white lawyer’s association promoting the appointment/election of white judges.
The double standard is breathtaking. These groups promulgate racism. The hypocrisy is so thick you can cut it with a knife.
Curiel should recuse himself most riki tik.
Yea,
It would immediately be branded the Master Race Lawyers Association.
Or the KKK Lawyers Association.
The double morality gets to be a little bit too much sometimes.
Sanders and his supporters are also being painted with the tar brush of racism by Clinton Inc.:
The White Entitlement of Some Sanders Supporters
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/05/the-white-entitlement-of-some-sanders-supporters.html
Criminal immigrants reoffend at higher rates than ICE has suggested
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/06/04/criminal-immigrants-reoffend-higher-rates-than-ice-has-suggested/l0OpCWfTdCuTNLIAfxApAO/story.html
VIDEO • Trump on “Mexican” Judge: “We Have To Stop Being So Politically Correct In This Country”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/05/trump_we_have_to_stop_being_so_politically_correct_in_this_country.html
Trump is right about the possibility, but I don’t know if it is a fact.
jim2,
Judge Curiel blongs to this group, California La Raza Lawyers Association:
The Chicano doctrine, even though it started out being purely separatist in nature, has since evolved to be janus faced.
Originally formulated in the 1960s, the Chicano ideology conceived of a separate nation called Aztlán. Aztlán would be populated by its own race of people called La Raza.
La Raza was neither USian nor Mexican, but a separate and distinct people formed by a combination of mestizos and native Americans. Gringos, gabachos and gachupines were, of course, definitely out, and gueros and bolillos were rarely to be seen.
Aztlán would occupy the geographical area curently occupied by the U.S. states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado and California. Here’s a mural from the 1970s that illustrates the idea:
Emilio Aguayo, Somos Aztlán, 1971
Ethnic Cultural Center, University of Washington, Seatttle
At that time, the Chicanos flew not only the Mexican flag at their events, but the flag of Aztlán as well, as can be seen in this foto:
Demonstration by the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlán, 1969
César Chávez, being an assimilationist with a far more pragmatic labor agenda based on nonviolent organizational politics, had an entirely different ideological outlook than the separatist Chicanos with their protest politcs that condoned violence. He hardly embraced the Chicanos, and his relationship with the Chicanos was strained, not ulike the tumultuous relationship that existed between the Rev. Martin Luther King and Malcom X. [I would like to do some more research on this and had a number of books on César Chávez, Dolores Huerta, and the Asociación Nacional de Trabajadores del Campo (NFWA), which later became the Unión de Trabajadores Campesinos (UFW). However, I seem to have mislplaced them and now can’t find them.]
Since the 1960s and 70s, the Chicano movement has evolved to be all things for all people. For instance, it claims Chávez as one of its own, even though his ideology was diametrically opposed to the seminal ideology of the Chicano movement.
The Chicano movement, therefore, has now become like a chameleon that changes colors to suit whatever the current situation is — sort of like a good cop bad cop routine.
When needed, the Chicano movement can trot out Chávez’s transcendent, nonviolent, assimilationist doctrine: “We just want to be good Americans.”
But when neeeded, the Chicano movement can also trot out the original separatist, racist shock troop doctrine of the 1960s and 70s:
jim2,
One thing, however, the Chicano movement has been unwaveringly consistent on is its stand on immigration. Then and now, it has staunchly advocated a policy of open borders with Mexico. It’s not difficult to see how this would collide head-on with Trump’s plan to build the wall.
To illustrate the Chicano’s stance on immigration, here are some artworks that were included in the “Chicano Art: Resistance and Affirmation” exhibition organized by UCLA’s Wight Gallery in 1990. The exhibition traveled to various museums throughout the country.
Rupert Garcia, ¡Cesen Deportacion!, 1973
Malaquias Montoya, Abajo con la Migra, 1979
Malaquias Montoya, Undocumented, 1981
Pedro A. Rodriguez, La Migra II, 1979
Yolanda M. López, Who’s the Illegal Alien, Pilgrim?, 1978
Elizabeth Sisco, Louis Hock, David Avalos, Welcome to America’s Finest Tourist Plantation, 1988
Glenn – thanks for this info. I didn’t know about much of it. Wish I had time to dig deeper. I hear that the judge belongs to a la raza lawyer group that isn’t related to the la raza “movement.”
“People are saying” he also doesn’t want a white judge because most of his victims are white.
People are saying if Obama was on trial he wouldn’t object if the judge were a member of a white supremacist group.
You’re a m0r0n, Jim D.
NBC “reporter” Andrea Mitchell also blames Trump for the violence against his supporters.
Is there any wonder that the MSM is deeply mired in a credibility and legitimacy crisis?
Andrea Mitchell Blames “Egging On” At Donald Trump Rallies For San Jose “Egging”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/05/andrea_mitchell_tremendous_antipathy_driving_record_voter_registration_in_california.html
Newt Gingrich: Trump’s Comments About “Mexican” Judge “One Of The Worst Mistakes He Has Made”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/05/newt_gingrich_trumps_comments_about_mexican_judge_one_of_the_worst_mistakes_he_has_made.html
VIDEO: Stefan Molyneux: San Jose Anti-Trump Rioters Technically Fit FBI Definition Of “Domestic Terrorists”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/05/stefan_molyneux_san_jose_anti-trump_rioters_technically_fit_definition_of_domestic_terrorists.html
True that!
‘The Young Turks’ Panel complaining that the anti-Trump violence gives Trump “the moral high ground”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/05/the_young_turks_panel_violence_against_trump_supporters_is_gross_hideous_–_dont_give_them_the_moral_high_ground.html
Freedom of speech IS the high moral ground.
Listen up, Hilary, BBC ABC ‘n Brusselsmen.
Dimowit use of Federal government power to squash free speech.
From the article:
…
A series of investigations found the IRS did ask intrusive questions and did delay applications for years, in violation of policy. But so far no investigation has found any order from the White House to conduct the targeting.
‘Tea’ and ‘patriot’ groups
Sixty of the groups on the list released last month have the word “tea” in their name, 33 have “patriot,” eight refer to the Constitution, and 13 have “912” in their name — which is the monicker of a movement started by conservatives. Another 26 group names refer to “liberty,” though that list does include some groups that are not discernibly conservative in orientation.
Among the groups that appear to trend liberal are three with the word “occupy” in their name.
And then there are some surprising names, including three state or local chapters of the League of Women Voters — a group with a long history of nonprofit work.
…
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/5/irs-reveals-list-of-tea-party-groups-targeted-for-/?page=all#pagebreak
Clinton Supporters are Scaremongering about Donald Trump to Silence the Concerns of the Young and the Poor
https://benjaminstudebaker.com/2016/03/25/clinton-supporters-are-scaremongering-about-donald-trump-to-silence-the-concerns-of-the-young-and-the-poor/
Hillary University: Bill Clinton Bagged $16.46 Million from For-Profit College as State Dept. Funneled $55 Million Back
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/02/hillary-university-bill-clinton-bagged-16-46-million-from-for-profit-college-as-state-dept-funneled-55-million-back/
Hillary’s Goon Squad
http://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2016/06/05/hillarys-goon-squad-n2173646
Anti-Trump rallies funded by the left
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/6/tammy-bruce-anti-trump-rallies-funded-by-the-left/
The goons attacking Trump rallies — and the liberals who enable them
http://nypost.com/2016/06/03/the-goons-attacking-trump-rallies-and-the-liberals-who-enable-them/
Clinton Loyalist Authoritarianism: Brad DeLong Threatens a Journalist and Economists. Who is Next?
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/06/clinton-loyalist-authoritarianism-brad-delong-threatens-huffington-post-journalist-zach-carter.html
Donald Trump in San Jose
http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_29974258/san-jose-fights-assault-police-officer-follow-trump
VIDEO • Hillary Clinton: “Excited About Having The President’s Support”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/06/hillary_clinton_i_am_excited_about_having_the_presidents_support.html
Now we see the Democratic establishment unite in making common cause with the most extreme, right-wing, reactionary faction in America: the Red State Blog.
Reid does everything in his power to lead people off on bunny trails: identity politics and that reliable old artillery piece, partisanship, which like professional wrestling is great entertainment, but should never be mistaken for a true contest.:
VIDEO • Reid Rips “Spineless” McConnell, Republicans For Refusing To Condemn Trump’s “Racism”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/06/harry_reid_rips_spineless_mcconnell_republicans_for_refusing_to_condemn_trumps_racism.html
Judge Curiel appointed a law firm to represent the plaintiffs in the federal law suit against Trump University. That law firm paid the Clinton’s $675,000 for three speeches.
VIDEO • O’Reilly: Law Firm Behind “Trump University” Lawsuit Paid Clintons $675,000 For Speeches; Judge “Should Recuse Himself”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/06/oreilly_law_firm_behind_trump_university_lawsuit_paid_clintons_675000_for_speeches.html
Oddly, Megyn Kelly said that the firm was hired before Curiel took over the case. Who to believe? She seemed fairly sure.
Jim D,
You can believe Megyn Kelly if you want, but I choose to believe what ex-attorney general Alberto Gonzalez says. When it comes to legal issues, I believe he speaks with a little bit more authority than Kelly:
Obviously Megyn isn’t now agreeing with Gonzalez. She said this just this evening countering this same point by a Trump spokeswoman.
Cenk Uygur: “Curious Coincidence” That CNN And NYT Both Use The Same Pro-Clinton Lines Of Attack
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/06/cenk_uygur_curious_coincidence_that_cnn_and_nyt_both_use_the_same_pro-clinton_lines_of_attack.html
VIDEO • Trump: “I Don’t Care If The Judge Is Mexican,” “I Want Him To Be A Fair Guy”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/06/trump_i_dont_care_if_the_judge_is_mexican_.html
VIDEO • Trump targets law firm in Trump University fraud case
Anderson Cooper 360.
The Donald Trump campaign is claiming the law firm appointed by Judge Curiel has paid money to the Clintons for speeches, fueling Trump’s opinion that he can’t be given a fair trial.
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/06/07/judge-curiel-hillary-clinton-link-dnt-serfaty-ac.cnn/video/playlists/donald-trump/
Now that the wicked web the Clintons and Judge Curiel are part of is being exposed, the attacks on Trump are becoming more rhetorical. The Republicrat establishment’s rejoinder: someone who claims that they are up against a biased judge that won’t give them a fair shake is “a whiner.”
So here’s the jest of it: anyone who advocates their own self-interest and complains of unfair treatment, and doesn’t immediately bow down to the PC sensitivity gestapo, is “a whiner.”
Go figure.
Donald Trump: The whiner in chief?
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/06/opinions/donald-trump-whiner-opinion-obeidallah/index.html
As the little piece of ground the PC gestapo stands on gets slowly eroded away, the dictatorship of virtue is becoming ever more shrill and histrionic.
Texas Democrat to Trump: ‘Take your border wall and shove it up your ass’
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/06/politics/donald-trump-filemon-vela-border-wall/index.html
This guy, despite being the target of a barrage of criticism from the PC Sensitivity Gestapo, refused to bow down to its mandatory sanctimony.
Man Trump called ‘my African-American’ speaks out
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/06/06/donald-trumps-my-african-american-supporter-intv-sot-erin.cnn
President Obama ready to take on Donald Trump
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/06/06/barack-obama-endorse-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-kosinski-tsr.cnn/video/playlists/atv-politics-original/
Can’t people see that Trump doesn’t want to get Curiel off the case? If he wanted Curiel off the case, his lawyers would have filed the motion a long time ago.
The legal standard for judges, at least according to Texas state law, is the appearance of bias or impartiality. That’s a pretty low bar to clear.
It’s becoming increasingly apparent that what Trump wants is to try this case in the courtroom of public opinion.
Trump is the Grand Master chess player, anticipating his moves, as well as the moves of others. These Republicrats are like beginning novices, always reacting. Give them enough rope, and they will hang themselves.
What is really on trial here is 1) the PC Sensitivity Gestapo that the Clintons and Curiel (what with his “chicano” and “la raza” affiliations) are part of, and the vision of rectitude these multicultural militants want to impose on the rest of us, and 2) the type of politics the Clintons practice, which is driven by patronage and favors.
Could Trump get judge off the case?
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/06/opinions/trump-judge-recusal-opinion-cevallos/index.html
Trump orders surrogates to keep criticizing judge, sources say
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/06/politics/donald-trump-gonzalo-curiel-trump-university/index.html
Welp the media has declared RIP:
Trump has one impressive pair of cojones to take on the PC Sensitivity Gestapo, something no other Republicrat has dared to do since the venerable U.S. Congressman Henry B. Gonzalez (D, Texas) did so many moons ago:
Skerry argues, and presents polling data, that the policies favored by Chicano and elite-network politicians like Clinton and Curiel have almost no base of support in the broader Mexican American community:
Trump, GOP sources: Trump is saying what many people are thinking
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/06/politics/donald-trump-gop-racial-comments/index.html
Why are you necromancing this old thread, Glenn?
I thought you were a man of Stehle.
Now the surrender monkeys and backstabbers in the Republican establishment join the fray:
Paul Ryan rips Donald Trump remarks as ‘textbook definition of a racist comment’
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/07/politics/paul-ryan-donald-trump-racist-comment/index.html
Graham to Trump backers: ‘If anybody was looking for an off-ramp, this is probably it’
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/07/politics/lindsey-graham-donald-trump/index.html
Trump’s willinglyness to coopt election media for informing public may well be a step too far by using twitter to sidestep media – bad precedent for future Presidencies that virtually assures election of a Manchurian candidate at some time because of remoteness?
If transparency is desired, media is the rule, but how to keep it honest?
Guess it all over now on email server except for the conspiracy theorists. Oh, wait I mean Republicans.